Point groups and symmetry: Adding and subtracting operations

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Understanding point groups and symmetry involves recognizing that adding or subtracting operations affects the entire group, not just the individual elements. When combining groups like C3 and i, one must consider all possible combinations generated by the new element with existing ones. This process can be complex and non-intuitive, requiring careful analysis of the resulting group. The key is to generate all elements from the combinations to fully grasp the new group's structure. Mastery of these concepts is crucial for a deeper understanding of symmetry in inorganic chemistry.
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I haven't been assigned these questions, but I'm trying to trudge through them to better understand symmetry. This is for my inorganic class.

It's just a series of short questions like:

C3 – S56 = ?
S4 + i = ?
C3 + i = ?

Stuff like this. And just looking at the elements in each group doesn't really help, because it's not just the given operation that's added, but sometimes several operations get added. I know the answer to each of these, but it's not really intuitive and I could use some help trying to think through them. Help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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well yes, you're right. when an extra element is added to the group, they really mean that the new group is all the elements that can be generated, by using the new element with old elements in the group. For example, in the case "C3 + i" to find out what the new group is, you need to find all the different ways to combine the new element with the old group. It's not too difficult in this specific case. But you're right that in general, it can be non-intuitive and require quite a lot of work.
 

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