Poisson Distribution: Mean & Variance Explained

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The discussion centers around the properties of the Poisson distribution, specifically whether the mean and variance are always equal, and the conditions under which the Poisson distribution can be approximated by a Gaussian distribution. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification.

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  • One participant questions if the Poisson distribution has the same value for mean and variance.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical derivation showing that for a given parameter, λ, the mean and variance of the Poisson distribution are both equal to λ.
  • A third participant mentions that the Poisson distribution can sometimes be assumed to be the same as the Gaussian distribution.
  • Another reply clarifies that the Poisson distribution can be approximated by a Gaussian distribution when the mean is large, but notes the distinction that Poisson is discrete while Gaussian is continuous.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the conditions for approximating the Poisson distribution with a Gaussian distribution, and there are differing views on the implications of the mean and variance being equal.

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The discussion includes mathematical derivations that may depend on specific assumptions about the parameter λ and the nature of the distributions involved. There is also a distinction between discrete and continuous distributions that remains unresolved.

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Hi do u know if the poisson distribution has always the same value for EX(mean value) and variance?
 
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Do you mean "how do you know that the mean and variance of a Poisson distribution are the same"? Do the math!

For given parameter, [itex]\lambda[/itex], the Poisson Distribution is
[tex]P_\lambda(n)= \lambda^n \frac{e^{-\lambda}}{n!}[/tex]
where n can be any positive integer.
The mean is given by
[tex]\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty \lambda^n \frac{e^{-\lambda}}{(n-1)!}[/tex]
[tex]= \lambda e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty \frac{\lambda^{n-1}}{(n-1)!}[/tex]
and taking j= n-1,
[tex]= \lambda e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{j= 0}^\infty \frac{\lambda^j}{j!}[/tex]
It is easy to recognise that sum as Taylor's series for [itex]e^\lambda[/itex] so the sum is just [itex]\lambda[/itex].

The variance is given by
[tex]\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty e^{-\lambda}n^2 \frac{\lambda^n}{n!}- \lambda^2[\tex]<br /> [tex]= e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty \frac{n^2\lambda^n}{n!}-\frac{n\lambda^n}{n!}+ \frac{n\lambda^n}{n!}-\lambda^2[/tex]<br /> [tex]= e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty \frac{n(n-1)\lambda^n}{n!}+ \frac{n\lambda^n}{n!}[/tex]<br /> [tex]= \lambda^2 e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{n=2}^\infty \frac{\lambda^{n-2}}{(n-2)!}+ \lamba e^{-\lambda}\Sigma_{n=1}^\infty \frac{\lambda^{n-1}}{(n-1)!}- \lambda^2[/tex]<br /> Now we can recognize both of those sums as Taylor's series for [itex]e^{\lamba}[/itex] and so the variance is [itex]\lambda^2+ \lambda- \lamba^2= \lambda[/itex].[/tex]
 
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Thx a lot really .. u seem to be really pro :)
I have read somewhere that sometimes we can assume that a poisson distribution is the same as the gaussian one
 
Poisson dist. can be approximated by Gaussian when the mean is large (compared to 1). However, Poisson is discrete, while Gaussian is continuous.
 

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