Polarized America & Class War Politics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around economic disparity in America and the political dynamics that accompany it, particularly as articulated by Paul Krugman in his editorial "Class War Politics." Participants explore themes of partisanship, the implications of the estate tax, and the broader socio-economic impacts of policies like NAFTA.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the role of economic disparity in shaping political behavior, suggesting that the poor are often ignored by politicians due to their lack of financial contributions to campaigns.
  • Others propose that the estate tax should consider land ownership versus liquid assets to protect family farms from being lost due to tax burdens.
  • One participant discusses the negative effects of NAFTA on Mexican farmers, arguing that it has led to increased poverty and displacement, which in turn affects the U.S. labor market.
  • There are differing views on the characterization of political partisanship, with some participants agreeing with Krugman that the right is more vicious, while others argue that the Democratic party also benefits from economic disparity and perpetuates class struggle for political gain.
  • Concerns are raised about access to Krugman's articles, with participants discussing the subscription model of the NY Times and sharing links to access the content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement on various points, particularly regarding the motivations of political parties and the implications of economic policies. There is no clear consensus on the characterization of partisanship or the effectiveness of proposed tax reforms.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of political behavior and economic policies, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes references to external articles and opinions that may influence participants' perspectives.

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russ_watters said:
I think you are missing my logic. What I was getting at is that "poverty" is both a social issue and a group of people. Eliminating that social issue eliminates the group of people voting democratic. The Republicans criminalizing abortion would not eliminate a constituent base (especially since passing the law would not end the fight).
Just because the democrats are supported by the impoverished now does not mean that once that group is eliminated that the democrats will have nothing to stand for. If they actually accomplish such a task it would change the political climate considerably, I would think, and put them in good favor at least temporarily.
 

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