Positron movement in a coil-induced magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the movement of a positron in a magnetic field generated by a coil, specifically examining the particle's trajectory in relation to the direction of its velocity and the magnetic field. The context includes considerations of both cases where the velocity and magnetic field are aligned or opposed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about the positron's path and questions whether it would mirror that of an electron. Participants inquire about the electron's path to provide context. A diagram is shared to illustrate the scenarios, prompting discussions about the forces acting on the particles and their trajectories.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications about the forces on the particles and discussing the implications of the magnetic field's direction. There is an acknowledgment of the need for further understanding of electron microscopes to fully grasp the situation.

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Participants are working with a diagram that represents the magnetic field and particle paths, but there is a noted uncertainty about the complete trajectories and the effects of the magnetic field outside the coil. The original poster's request for help indicates a lack of prior knowledge on the topic.

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in a microscopy class:
problem is to illustrate the path of a positron on both sides of the axis in a coil produced magnetic field. consider both cases of the particle's velocity and the magnetic field being a)in the same direction & b)in opposite directions.

i have no clue. any help? would it just be the opposite of an electron's path?
 
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Do you know anything about the electron path? You should write something about that, at least.
 
see attached pic.

where A & B are condenser lenses in an EM, so they are fields generated by a coil.
A) the field & the velocity are the same direction
B) they are opposite
(both only shown on one side of the axis).

is this correct , with the electron in blue & the positron in red?
 

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As far as I understand from your diagram, the dotted line represents the axis of the coil, and the e-/p+ is traveling in a st line inside the coil. Just outside the coil the magnetic field has started to diverge away from the axis, and you have drawn the instantaneous force on the e-/p+. The path of the particle inside the coil is above the axis.

In fig A, the B would point slightly upward and remain in the plane of the paper just outside the coil. For a +ve q, the force would be only out of the paper toward you, with no “down” component. Remember, these are just the instantaneous forces on the particles when the field lines are not parallel any more, not the trajectories. After an instant, there will be a “down” component to the force, but I’m not very sure how the full path is going to be. I have to read up on electron microscopes.

The same goes for fig B. The “out” and “in” are correct.
 
ah. thanks for the help.
 

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