Potential Energy between molecules

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric potential energy of the adenine-thymine bond in DNA, utilizing the formula U = kq1q2/r. Participants emphasize the need to consider the interactions between multiple charges within the molecular structure. Additionally, a comparison is made with the potential energy of a proton-electron pair in a hydrogen atom, where the distance is 0.0529 nm. The conversation highlights the complexity of integrating chemistry concepts into physics calculations.

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  • Understanding of electric potential energy calculations (U = kq1q2/r)
  • Familiarity with molecular biology, specifically DNA structure and base pairing
  • Knowledge of basic chemistry, particularly atomic structure and interactions
  • Proficiency in physics concepts related to electric fields and forces
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Homework Statement


The two sides of the DNA double helix are connected by pairs of bases (adenine, thymine, cytosine, and guanine). Because of the geometric shape of these molecules, adenine bonds with thymine and cytosine bonds with guanine. The figure shows the thymine–adenine bond. Each charge shown is +/- e and the H-N distance is 0.110 nm.

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1)
Calculate the electric potential energy of the adenine–thymine bond. To keep the calculations fairly simple, yet reasonable, consider only the electric field due to the and the combinations, assuming that these two combinations are parallel to each other. Remember, however, that in the set, the exerts a force on both the and the and likewise along the set.

2)
Compare this energy with the potential energy of the proton–electron pair in the hydrogen atom. The electron in the hydrogen atom is 0.0529 from the proton.


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The Attempt at a Solution


So for part 1, U=kq1q2/r

But what do I take the potential energy of? Every combination of the 6 charges? How do I know what r is in between the OHN and NHN? I know the distances between charges for each charge in OHN, and for each charge in NHN, but not between the two.

For part 2, I have less of a clue because it requires using the answer to part 1 (answer to part 1 divided by U_hydrogen)

So for the potential energy of hydrogen, I assume I use +q and -q as the two charges, and 0.0529nm as r?

I've already done all the other HW problems because they were straightforward, but when they throw chemistry into the mix I get confused...
 
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Does anyone even have an idea of how I could approach this problem? If i was simply dealing with a system of 3 charges on a line, would I find the potential energy by adding the 3 possible potential energies together? (kq1q2/r, kq1q3/r, kq2q3/r)?
 
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