Potential Energy of Oppositely Charged Particles: Positive or Negative?

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The discussion revolves around the potential energy of a system consisting of two charges, one positive and one negative, separated by a fixed distance. Participants are exploring the nature of this potential energy and whether it can be positive, negative, or dependent on distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to determine the conditions under which the potential energy is positive or negative, with some suggesting it depends on the magnitudes of the charges. Questions about the expression for potential energy and the implications of coordinate systems are also raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants are considering the implications of distance and the nature of potential energy in relation to the charges. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the distance between the charges is always positive and question how this affects the potential energy. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations of their textbook resources in providing clarity on the topic.

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Homework Statement


Two charges, one positive and one negative, are separated by a fixed distance.
The sign of the potential energy of this pair
is always positive;
is always negative;
is sometimes positive and sometimes negative;
depends on the distance.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I think that it is sometimes positive and sometimes negative; since it would depend on the magnitude of the individual charges?
 
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what is the expression for potential energy of two charges?
 
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No superposition requred here. Potential energy is a property of the two particle system. A single particle would have none.
 
apparently not then- can something have negative potential energy? I am now thinking always positive??
 
Sure. It's just a matter of your coordinate system, really. Consider gravitational potential energy.
 
yeah i see that... so would the answer be "depends on the distance"? (i know I am just stabbing in the dark now but i need the answer and can't find anything useful in my textbook)
 
let's take graphene's advice in post #2:

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everything on the bottom you can hold constant (i.e. you can ignore it for this question)

r = distance. Distance is always positive in this case. It's the distance between the two charges (there's no way to make it negative, because the question of distance between two objects isn't concerned about the object's position relating to any coordinate system, just each other.)

So everything on the bottom is constant and positive. Now think of the different cases for q1 and q2 and what U they'll result in. Then use what you discover to answer the question.
 
if I am only concerned about the top then it has to be negative for this case doesn't it??
 
Yup, like gravity, it will always be attractive. Opposite charges attract.
 

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