POVMs for Infinite Dimensional Hilbert Spaces

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on the construction of Positive Operator-Valued Measures (POVMs) for infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces, particularly in the context of simultaneous measurements of position and momentum. Key references include the Arthurs-Kelly protocol and its generalizations, as detailed in works by Thomas J Bullock and Maicol A. Ochoa. The conversation emphasizes the distinction between finite-valued POVMs and those acting on state vectors in finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces, highlighting that finite dimensions are often suitable for practical POVMs despite the infinite-dimensional context.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Positive Operator-Valued Measures (POVMs)
  • Familiarity with infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces
  • Knowledge of quantum measurement theory
  • Acquaintance with the Arthurs-Kelly measurement protocol
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the Arthurs-Kelly protocol in detail
  • Explore the implications of quantum tomography as outlined in A. Neumaier's manuscript
  • Investigate the concept of weak measurements in quantum mechanics
  • Review the paper "Simultaneous weak measurement of non-commuting observables" by Ochoa et al.
USEFUL FOR

Quantum physicists, researchers in quantum measurement theory, and anyone interested in advanced topics related to POVMs and infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces.

jbergman
Messages
483
Reaction score
222
TL;DR
Most discussion of POVM focus on examples on finite-dimensional Hilbert Spaces. How do we construct a POVM for multiple observables with continuous spectrum?
After reading up on some of the discussion in the Quantum Interpretations forums, I became interested in learning more about POVMs.

However, most of the examples are from the finite dimensional setting. If I wanted to model a POVM that approximately measures position and momentum simultaneously, how would I construct such a POVM?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71 and Demystifier
Physics news on Phys.org
See Part IV https://journals.aps.org/pra/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevA.87.062112.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71 and jbergman
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: jbergman, vanhees71 and Demystifier
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: mattt, Demystifier, Haborix and 1 other person
Since measurements always produce discrete results, finite dimensions are quite appropriate for POVMs in practice; see the paper accompanying my Insight article Quantum Physics via Quantum Tomography.

Many examples of POVMs in infinite dimensional Hilbert spaces arise from them by taking a continuum limit.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: atyy, gentzen, Demystifier and 2 others
A. Neumaier said:
Since measurements always produce discrete results, finite dimensions are quite appropriate for POVMs in practice; see the paper accompanying my Insight article Quantum Physics via Quantum Tomography.
A finite valued POVM isn't the same as a POVM that acts on state vectors in finite dimensional Hilbert space is it?

For instance, if I want to measure a discrete position value.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier
jbergman said:
A finite valued POVM isn't the same as a POVM that acts on state vectors in finite dimensional Hilbert space is it?
Yes, there is a difference. But for finite valued POVMs, the (finite or infinite) dimension of the Hilbert spaces does not really figure in the formalism.
jbergman said:
For instance, if I want to measure a discrete position value.
In this case you first need to define what you mean by discrete position. Maybe you find the setting in Sections 3.3-4 of my quantum tomography paper
  • A. Neumaier, Quantum mechanics via quantum tomography, Manuscript (2022). arXiv:2110.05294v3
convincing.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 61 ·
3
Replies
61
Views
6K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
879
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 62 ·
3
Replies
62
Views
10K
  • · Replies 59 ·
2
Replies
59
Views
5K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
260