Power needed to accelerate up incline

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The problem involves a vehicle of mass 200kg accelerating up an incline of 1 in 8 to a speed of 40km/h over 15 seconds. The resistance to motion includes friction and air resistance, with specific equations provided for each. The discussion focuses on calculating resistance, effort, and power required for the vehicle's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of total resistance to motion and the effort required to achieve the desired speed. Questions arise regarding the constancy of resistance during acceleration and the need to average air resistance. Some participants express confusion about the differences in power calculations at slightly different speeds.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed parts of the calculations, while others are exploring the implications of varying air resistance. There is a recognition that the effort required may depend on velocity, and guidance has been offered regarding the potential need for differential equations to address the varying forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the coursework includes selecting an appropriate motor size, which adds a practical application to the theoretical calculations being discussed. There is mention of varying levels of mathematical background among participants, which may influence their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


a vehicle of mass 200kg accelerates from rest up to 40km/h in 15seconds up an incline of 1 in 8. The resistance to motion can be considered to be in two parts, the first being due to friction and constant at 50 N/tonne with the second part being due to air resistance and being equal to 0.02v2 + v Newtons, where v is in km/hr.
a) Calculate the resistance to motion at 40km/h
b) Calculate the effort required to achieve 40km/h
c) Calculate the power required

d) we are later asked as part of coursework to choose a electric motor size for vehicle


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The Attempt at a Solution



a)whilst traveling at constant velocity

Force of air resistance (N) = 0.02*40^2+40 = 72 N
Rolling resistance (N) = 50 * 0.2t = 10 N
Force of incline (N) = 200*9.81*1/8 = 245.25

total resistance to motion at 40km/h (N) = 72+10+245.25 (N) = 327.25 N

b) Effort required = total resistance to motion + ma

to find a

v = 40km/h = 11.1m/s
u = 0 m/s
t = 15 s
a = ? m/s^2

v = u + at
11.1 (m/s)= a (m/s^2)*15(s)
a = 0.74 m/s^2

effort required = E = 327.25 (N)+ (200(kg)*0.74(m/s^2))
E = 475.25 N

c)
to find work done we need distance travelled

s = ut + 0.5at^2
s = 0.5*0.74(m/s^2)*15^2(t)
s = 83.25 m

workdone = 475.25(N)*83.25(m) = 39564.6 joules

Power = workdone/time = 39865.6(j)/15(s) = 2637.6 j/s (watts)

Power (hp) = 2598.2 / 745.7 = 3.49 hp

the answer I obtained doesn't take into account the varing air resistance would i need to find an average and recalculate?

in terms of selecting a suitable size motor if i work out the power needed at 39.9km/h with a acceleration of 0.74m/s^2 the power needed is

power = (total resistance + ma)*v

power = (475.25(N)+0.74(m/s^2)*200(kg))*11.1(m/s)
power = 6918 j/s

power (hp) = 6918/754.7 = 9.28 hp

I'm a little confused as why the power required to reach 40km/h is so less than power needed at 39.9km/h with a acceleration 0.74m/s^s. have i done calc wrong? what size motor do i go for? please help.
 
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Your solution to (a) is correct. However, for (b) is the resistance to motion going to be constant throughout the acceleration?
 
hi, thanks, do I need to try and find an average for air resistance?
 
ferswin said:
hi, thanks, do I need to try and find an average for air resistance?
The effort required is going to be a function of velocity. Tell me have you solved any first order differential equations before? If not, I may be sending you off on a wild goose chase.
 
no haven't done any 'first order differential equations before' will this be hard? the main of the cousework was to select a suitable motor and battery supply.
 
ferswin said:
no haven't done any 'first order differential equations before' will this be hard? the main of the cousework was to select a suitable motor and battery supply.
What's your level? Have you done any calculus previously?
 
it is BEng degree level (UK), I have gone back into education after many years so I'm quite rusty. but i know we haven't covered any differentiating in this course yet.
 
I think I've over-complicating things a little here anyway. What you've done for (b) looks okay to me. However, for (c) I believe that you're going to have to take into account the varying air resistance as you say. Note that for motion in one dimension we define the work done by a variable force thus;

W = \int^{x_1}_{x_0}F\cdot dx
 
thanks, i'll some research into this, see if i can sovle it now
 

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