Power & Velocity Homework Solution | 450 kW

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The problem involves a rocket sled with a mass of 4 Mg that maintains a constant power output of 450 kW while traveling along a horizontal track. The objective is to determine the distance required to reach a speed of 60 m/s from rest, considering the effects of power and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to relate power, force, and distance using kinetic energy equations but expresses confusion regarding the application of these concepts. Some participants suggest that the force is not constant and that integration is necessary. There are inquiries about how to perform the integration involving velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the integration process and the implications of variable force on the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between power and energy, and there is a focus on clarifying the integration steps needed to progress.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on neglecting factors such as fuel mass loss and air resistance, which may influence the assumptions being made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


The rocket sled has a mass of 4 Mg and travels along the smooth horizontal track such that it maintains a constant power output of 450 kW. Neglect the loss of fuel mass and air resistance, and determine how far the sled must travel to reach a speed of v = 60 m>s starting from rest.

Homework Equations



P = Fv
## E_k = \frac{1}{2} mv^2 ##
W=Fs

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the rocket sled is moving along a flat surface, and that there is no loss of energy, we can conclude that the energy coming from the power output will be converted to kinetic energy.

## E_k = W = Fs = \frac{P}{v} s ##

Thus simplifying, we get

## \frac{1}{2} mv^3 = Ps ##

But apparently, there is something wrong with the equations since if we go about from another way,

## P = Fv = (ma)v = (mv\frac{dv}{ds})v ##

## \int_0^s P \, ds = m\int_0^v v^2 \, dv ##

## Ps = \frac{1}{3} mv^3 ##

Is there something wrong with my concept or that I am not seeing?

Thank you.
 
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elitewarr said:
W=Fs
Force will not be constant here, so that needs to be an integral, not a simple product.
 
haruspex said:
Force will not be constant here, so that needs to be an integral, not a simple product.

Thank you for the fast reply.

Okay. I was suspecting much. But how do I do the integration for the ## \frac{1}{v} ## with respect to ds? Any clues as to where to start?
 
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might be useful: Energy = power x time
 
elitewarr said:
Thank you for the fast reply.

Okay. I was suspecting much. But how do I do the integration for the ## \frac{1}{v} ## with respect to ds? Any clues as to where to start?
Since v= ds/dt, \int \frac{P}{v}ds= P\int \d<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 198689" data-quote="elitewarr" data-source="post: 5084413" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> elitewarr said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thank you for the fast reply.<br /> <br /> Okay. I was suspecting much. But how do I do the integration for the ## \frac{1}{v} ## with respect to ds? Any clues as to where to start? </div> </div> </blockquote> Since v= \frac{ds}{dt},<br /> P\int \frac{1}{v}ds= P\int \frac{1}{\frac{ds}{dt}}ds= P\int \frac{dt}{ds}ds= P\int dt= P(t_1- t_0)
 
elitewarr said:
Thank you for the fast reply.

Okay. I was suspecting much. But how do I do the integration for the ## \frac{1}{v} ## with respect to ds? Any clues as to where to start?
Relate F to dv/dt.
Edit: or better still, to vdv/ds.
 
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