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Pre-flood firmament was in orbit
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Discussion Overview
The discussion centers around the concept of a 'pre-flood' firmament as described in the Bible, specifically proposing that it was a layer of water orbiting the Earth at a height of 1720 miles. The conversation includes calculations and theoretical considerations regarding the nature of this firmament, its implications for the biblical flood narrative, and challenges to the assumptions made in the calculations.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant presents calculations suggesting that the firmament could have been a layer of water 13 to 50 feet thick, orbiting at 1720 miles above the Earth, and discusses the implications of this for the biblical flood narrative.
- The same participant argues that if the firmament were a warm layer of water, it would condense vapor as dew rather than rain, contrasting it with current atmospheric conditions.
- Another participant challenges the initial claim by asserting that the biblical account implies much more than 13 feet of rain, questioning the feasibility of such a scenario if the water was in orbit.
- This second participant raises concerns about the mechanics of how water in orbit could slow down enough to fall, citing the high delta-Vs involved.
- There is a suggestion that reliance on supernatural explanations undermines scientific discourse, with a call for a more evidence-based approach to the discussion.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the thickness of the firmament and the implications of its existence. There is no consensus on the calculations or the interpretations of the biblical text, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of the proposed model.
Contextual Notes
The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the firmament, the interpretation of biblical texts, and the physical principles governing orbital mechanics. These assumptions are not universally accepted and may depend on specific interpretations of the evidence presented.
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