Preserving Orientation in Spheres?

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The discussion revolves around the preservation of orientation in spheres and its relationship to the orientability of projective real spaces, specifically examining the conditions under which the antipodal map is orientation-preserving or reversing based on the dimension of the sphere.

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  • One participant suggests that the statement regarding the function f:S^n->S^n preserving orientation is equivalent to the orientability of PR^n being dependent on n being odd.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial assertion without providing further details.
  • A participant questions the reasoning behind the equivalence, mentioning the quotient map from S^n to RP^n and its properties, particularly focusing on the orientation-reversing nature of the antipodal map when n is even.
  • It is noted that when n is odd, the quotient map is a local diffeomorphism, which allows for a globally defined orientation on RP^n due to the agreement of orientations from antipodal points.
  • One participant describes a method involving an atlas of consistently oriented charts on S^n and the transition functions between charts on RP^n, raising the question of whether there is a more straightforward approach to this proof.

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Participants generally agree on the relationship between the orientation preservation and the oddness of n, but there are differing views on the reasoning and methods used to establish this relationship, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved.

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The discussion involves complex mathematical concepts such as local diffeomorphisms, orientation, and transition functions, which may depend on specific definitions and assumptions that are not fully articulated in the posts.

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Is the statement:
the function f:S^n->S^n (the n unit sphere), f(x)=-x preserves orientation iff n is odd
equivalent to:
PR^n is orientable iff n is odd
where PR^n is the projective real space.

I think the answer is yes, just want to be sure here.

thanks in advance.
 
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yes.
 
What is the reason for this?

Using the fact that the quotient map from S^n to RP^n (x-->[x], where x~y iff y=±x) is a local diffeomorphism and the fact that the antipodal map above is orientation reversing, I can get a contradiction from the hypotheses that RP^n is orientable when n is even. But when n is odd, it's another game. How does that work?

Thanks.
 
When n is odd, the quotient map f:S^n->RP^n is locally a diffeomorphism, so it locally maps an orientation on S^n to RP^n and, the fact that x->-x is orientation preserving means that the orientation given by antipodal points agree, giving a globally defined orientation on RP^n.
 
Yes that's obviously the general idea. But thanks, I figured out a way to work out the details just a moment ago.
 
It's not very elegant though... I start by considering an atlas of consistently oriented charts of S^n such that
(1) The restriction of p to each coordinate chart is a diffeomorphism onto its image.
(2) if U is a coordinate chart around x and V a coordinate chart around -x, then U and V do not intersect.

I then push the atlas to RP^n via p, and now it remains to show that this atlas of RP^n is too, consistently oriented. So I take some point [x] in RP^n. Then for any chart U'=p(U), V'=p(V) around [x], either
(a) U n V is empty and (W.L.O.G.) x is in U, -x is in V
(b) U and V intersect

In each case, the transition function from U' to V' is shown to have positive determinant. In case (a), the antipodal map comes in and the fact that it itself has positive determinant (for n odd) is the key.

Is there an obvious swifter way I am missing?
 

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