MHB Prime Elements in Non-Integral Domains?

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The discussion revolves around the definition of a prime element in rings that are not integral domains, referencing Dummit and Foote's work. It questions whether the definition implies that prime elements cannot exist outside integral domains. The consensus is that while the definition of prime elements applies to commutative rings, the presence of zero-divisors complicates their utility. Ultimately, prime elements can exist in non-integral domains, but their behavior and significance differ from those in integral domains. Understanding this distinction is crucial for grasping the structure of commutative rings.
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On page 284 Dummit and Foote in their book Abstract Algebra define a prime element in an integral domain ... as follows:View attachment 5660My question is as follows:

What is the definition of a prime element in a ring that is not an integral domain ... does D&F's definition imply that prime elements cannot exist in a ring that is not an integral domain ... but why not ...?Can someone please clarify this situation ...

Peter
 
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The definition is aiming at the following theorem:

For a commutative ring $R$ and an ideal $J$:

$J$ is prime $\iff \ R/J$ is an integral domain.

The definition of prime element is the same for a mere commutative ring, but commutative rings with zero-divisors aren't so well-behaved, and primes aren't as "useful" there.
 
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