Prime Ideals and Maximal Ideals

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The discussion revolves around identifying all prime and maximal ideals of the rings \(\mathbb{Z}_{12}\) and \(\mathbb{Z}_2 \times \mathbb{Z}_4\). Participants explore the properties of ideals in these rings, referencing theorems and providing examples to illustrate their points.

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  • One participant lists the ideals of \(\mathbb{Z}_{12}\) and discusses their properties, noting that \(2\mathbb{Z}_{12}\) is neither prime nor maximal, while \(4\mathbb{Z}_{12}\) is maximal and prime.
  • Another participant requests the statement of a theorem referenced in the discussion, which is later provided, detailing the correspondence between ideals of a ring and ideals of its quotient.
  • A participant elaborates on the structure of ideals in cyclic rings, asserting that the ideals correspond to the subgroups of the additive group, and discusses the conditions under which ideals are maximal.
  • There is mention of the order of quotient rings and the conditions for an ideal to be maximal, specifically that the quotient must be a field or have order \(p^n\) for prime \(p\) and positive integer \(n\).
  • Another participant emphasizes that certain ideals are not prime due to the presence of zero divisors in the corresponding quotient rings.

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Participants present various viewpoints on the identification of prime and maximal ideals, with some agreeing on certain ideals being maximal while others challenge or refine these claims. The discussion does not reach a consensus on all points raised.

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Participants reference specific theorems and properties of ideals without fully resolving the implications of these references. There are unresolved aspects regarding the classification of ideals and the conditions under which they are considered prime or maximal.

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1) Find all prime ideals and all maximal ideals of \mathbb{Z}_{12}.

2) Find all prime ideals and maximal ideals of \(\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_2 \ \times \ \mathbb{Z}_4\).
 
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Re: Prime Ideals and Maximal Ideals of Z12

Peter said:
Find all prime ideals and all maximal ideals of \mathbb{Z}_{12}.

According to a well-known theorem, the ideals of $Z_{12}$ are $Z_{12},2Z_{12},3Z_{12},4Z_{12},6Z_{12}$ and $12Z_{12}=\{0\}$. Now, find the corresponding quotient rings. For example, $Z_{12}/2Z_{12}$ (isomorphic to $Z_{6}$) is neither integral domain nor field so, $2Z_{12}$ is neither prime ideal nor maximal ideal. $Z_{12}/4Z_{12}$ (isomorphic to $Z_{3}$) is field so, $4Z_{12}$ is maximal (as a consquenece prime), etc.
 
Thanks Fernando, most helpful.

Are you able to give me the statement of the theorem that's you refer to in your post.

Thanks again,

Peter
 
Peter said:
Are you able to give me the statement of the theorem that's you refer to in your post.

Yes, I quote Proposition 1.1 from Atiyah, MacDonald's Introduction to Commutative Algebra:

Let $A$ be a commutative and unitary ring and $\mathfrak{a}$ an ideal of $A$. Then, there is a one-to-one order-preserving corresponding between the ideals $\mathfrak{b}$ of $A$ which contains $\mathfrak{a}$ and the ideals $\bar{\mathfrak{b}}$ of $A/\mathfrak{a}$, given by $\mathfrak{b}=\phi^{-1}(\bar{\mathfrak{b}})$.
 
Ok, here is just another couple of points.

If I is an ideal of a ring R, then I is first and foremost an additive subgroup of the group (R, +).
Since $Z_{12} = <1>$ is a cyclic subgroup under addition. There is exactly one unique subgroup of size p where p is a divisor for 12. So the divisors are 1,2,3,4,6,12And these additive subgroups are (Subgroup of 1 element)$<1^{12/1}>$,(Subgroup of 2 elements $<1^{12/2}>$, (Subgroup of 3 elements)$<1^{12/3}>$ etc...

All these additive subgroups (Denoted by S) are ideals of $Z_{12}$ for if $ r \in Z_{12} $ and $ x \in S $ then x*r = r * x = x + x + x + x.. + (r times) $\in S$ (since S is closed under addition).

It is not hard to show that for any cyclic ring R(Ring with a cyclic group under addition), the ideals of R are the subgroups of (R,+), Hence ideals of size p where p divides the order of R

Now for any ideal I of $Z_{12}$, the order of $Z_{12}/I$ is $12/d$ where d is a divisor of 12. So yu have order of $Z_{12}/I$ = 1,12,6,4,3,2. So we know for I to be maximal $Z_{12}/I$ must be a field, or must have order $p^n$ where p is a prime and n is a positive integer. so the ideals where the order of $Z_{12}/I$ = 4,3,2. are maximal ideals. Or maximal ideals are 3$Z_{12}$,4$Z_{12}$ $6Z_{12}$.
Thus these are also prime ideals.

The others, namely, $Z_{12}/2Z_{12} \cong Z_6$, is not a prime ideal because 2*3 = 0 $\in Z_6$, which means it has atleast one zero divisor. and $Z_{12}/12Z_{12} \cong Z_{12}$ $\{e\}$is also not prime since 6*2 = 0 $\in Z_{12}$(We do not include the ideal $Z_{12}$ in consideration for being a "prime" ideal, akin to how we don't say 1 is a prime number.
 
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