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The discussion revolves around the application of Born's rule in quantum mechanics, specifically regarding the calculation of probabilities from quantum states represented as complex amplitudes. Participants explore the correct method for converting these amplitudes into probabilities, addressing potential misunderstandings and clarifying the normalization of states.

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Participants express differing views on the correct application of Born's rule and the normalization of states. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the calculations, as some participants challenge each other's understanding and methods.

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Some participants may be operating under different assumptions regarding the normalization of quantum states, which could affect their calculations and interpretations of Born's rule.

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also, another probability of e[tex]\pi[/tex]i/8 / 2 gives a probability of 1/4. why?

if i square it and mod i get e[tex]\pi[/tex]i/4 /4 which doesn't give me 1/4.

is my concept wrong ?
 
The Born's rule in the form you have quoted it assumes that |a> and |b> are normalized - their norms should be 1. In general, for unnormalized states, it should read as

[tex]\frac{|\langle a,b\rangle|^2}{\langle a,a\rangle\,\langle b,b\rangle}[/tex]
 
I think you are not converting amplitudes to probabilities correctly. An amplitude of (1/2 + i/2) becomes a probability as follows: take the modulus, which is sqrt((1/2)^2 + (1/2)^2) = sqrt(1/2). Square to get 1/2. Alternatively, you can accomplish the same thing by multiplying the amplitude by its complex conjugate: (1/2 + i/2)(1/2 - i/2) = 1/2. (Ex: show these methods are equivalent)

If you have an amplitude of (1/2)exp(i*pi/8), take the modulus to get 1/2 and square that to get 1/4. Alternatively, do the other method: (1/2)exp(i*pi/8) * (1/2)exp(-i*pi/8) = (1/2)^2 = 1/4.
 
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