Probability Problem: Defaulting on Payments

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem concerning the likelihood of defaulting on payments, specifically calculating the probabilities of making all 10 payments and only the first 5 payments. The context includes mathematical reasoning and the application of probability concepts.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method to calculate the probability of making all 10 payments by multiplying the probabilities of not defaulting on each payment.
  • Another participant confirms the independence of the events and provides a numerical result for the probability of not defaulting on ten payments.
  • A suggestion is made to use a probability tree to visualize the problem, which may help identify any missing terms in the calculations.
  • A later reply questions whether the probability of defaulting should be included in the calculations for the second question, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the approach.
  • One participant expresses that they have resolved their confusion after reviewing the problem with the help of others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of calculating probabilities through multiplication of independent events, but there are uncertainties regarding the completeness of the calculations and whether all relevant terms have been included.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the correct application of the probability formulas and whether all necessary terms have been accounted for in the calculations.

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Problem:
The probability of defaulting on the nth payment is 0.017n - 0.013 where n is a whole number, n = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
find:
1) the probability of making all 10 payments
2) the probability of making only the first 5 payments
Note: each payment made are equal

My idea:

I was thinking that defaulting means I won't make the payment, so
is this the right answer to the first question?
P = ( 1 - (0.017 - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(2) - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(3) - 0.013)) * ... * ( 1 - (0.017(10) - 0.013))

and similarly for the second one:
P = P = ( 1 - (0.017 - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(2) - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(3) - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(4) - 0.013)) * ( 1 - (0.017(5) - 0.013))

Does that make sense? Taking the probability for each payment by 1 - failure and then multiply each of them. Am I doing this right? I'm not good at probability yet.
 
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You have the right idea. They are independent events. My TI-86 gets 42.6% possibility of not defaulting on ten payments.

A simple problem is to consider the possibility of test failure to be 1/4 and they are to be three tests. Then the possibiility of passing all tests is (3/4)^3.
 
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It often helps to draw the probability tree - try this and you might spot the term missing from one of your expressions.
 
bpet said:
It often helps to draw the probability tree - try this and you might spot the term missing from one of your expressions.

? I checked it over with a tree diagram. How am I missing a term?

(edit): would I have to include the probability of defaulting in the second question? i.e. keep multiplying my answer by (0.017n - 0.013) where n = 6, ... 10 ?

(edit #2): I got it now. Thanks guys!
 
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