Probability question on students

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The problem involves calculating the probability of a certain number of students being manipulated into participating in a scheme, modeled as a binomial random variable with a given probability of success. The context is set in Professor Moriarty's office hours with 18 students visiting.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the binomial formula and share their calculations for various probabilities. There is a focus on verifying arithmetic and understanding the implications of phrasing like "4 or more" versus "at least 4."

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify calculations and confirm understanding of probability terminology. Some participants have acknowledged errors in their initial calculations and are working towards correcting them. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of probability phrases.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the assumption that the students' visits are independent and that the binomial distribution applies. There is a noted confusion regarding the phrasing of probability statements and their implications for calculations.

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Homework Statement


Each student who enters Professor James Moriarty's office has a 10% chance of being
manipulated into participating in some criminal scheme. Assume that Moriarty's classes are so
large that the students can be considered independent with regard to their meetings with him.
If 18 students visit Moriarty during his office hours, then the probability he will gain four or
more new criminal underlings is

Homework Equations


I am 100% sure this a binomial random variable.
the formula is:
p(x)= nCx * p^x * (1-p)^n-x

The Attempt at a Solution


so n=18
x=0,1,2,3
p=0.1

p(x=0)=0.15
p(x=1)=0.017
p(x=2)=1.85x10^-3
p(x=3)=2.06x10^-4

p(4 or more students)= 1- p(x=0) - p(x=1) - p(x=2) - p(x=3)
=0.831

The answer is 0.098
 
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tsukuba said:

Homework Statement


Each student who enters Professor James Moriarty's office has a 10% chance of being
manipulated into participating in some criminal scheme. Assume that Moriarty's classes are so
large that the students can be considered independent with regard to their meetings with him.
If 18 students visit Moriarty during his office hours, then the probability he will gain four or
more new criminal underlings is

Homework Equations


I am 100% sure this a binomial random variable.
the formula is:
p(x)= nCx * p^x * (1-p)^n-x

The Attempt at a Solution


so n=18
x=0,1,2,3
p=0.1

p(x=0)=0.15
p(x=1)=0.017
p(x=2)=1.85x10^-3
p(x=3)=2.06x10^-4

p(4 or more students)= 1- p(x=0) - p(x=1) - p(x=2) - p(x=3)
=0.831

The answer is 0.098

The idea is correct, but I don't think the numbers you are getting for p(x=1), p(x=2) and p(x=3) look correct. Can you show the arithmetic you did you get p(x=1) some of them?
 
p(x=1)= 18C1 * 0.1^1 * 0.9^17
 
yes, I figured out what I did wrong with my numbers. I will try the question with the correct numbers now.
 
hey I got the answer! thanks for pointing out my math was wrong.
:)

I have another question though..
for that question it stated 4 or more.. so I did 1- the addition of 0,1,2,3
Lets say it said "at least 4"
would I just have to add 0,1,2,3 and that'll be my answer?
 
tsukuba said:
hey I got the answer! thanks for pointing out my math was wrong.
:)

I have another question though..
for that question it stated 4 or more.. so I did 1- the addition of 0,1,2,3
Lets say it said "at least 4"
would I just have to add 0,1,2,3 and that'll be my answer?

"At least 4" means the same thing as "4 or more", doesn't it? If you mean "at most 4" you'd have to add 0,1,2,3,4.
 
haha yea sorry..
and alright got it! thank you
 

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