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The discussion focuses on calculating the probabilities related to disease A, which has a prevalence of 0.01. Two tests are conducted, each with a 0.95 probability of providing a correct result. The participants derive the probability of at least one positive test result and both tests being positive, ultimately leading to the formulas for P(D|at least one positive) and P(D|both positive). The calculations reveal discrepancies with suggested solutions, prompting further clarification on the correct application of Bayes' theorem.

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Hey! :o

The percentage of people that have a disease A is $0,01$.
We apply twice a test for that disease, each of which give the correct answer with probability $0,95$.
What is the probability that someone has that disease if at least one test is positive and what is the probability if both tests are positive? I have done the following:

We have that $$P(\text{at least one positive})=1-P(\text{no positive})=1-P(NN)$$ where N: "negative". Let D be the event "has the disease".

Then we have that $$P(NN)=P(NN\cap D)+P(NN\cap D^C)=P(NN\mid D)\cdot P(D)+P(NN\mid D^C)\cdot P(D^C)$$ We have that $P(D)=0,01$ and $P(D^C)=0,99$.

Does it hold that $P(NN\mid D)=P(N\mid D)^2$ and $P(NN\mid D^C)=P(N\mid D^C)^2$ ?

If yes, does it hold that $P(N\mid D)=0,05$ and $P(N\mid D^C)=0,95$ ?

That would mean that we get $$P(NN)=0,05^2\cdot 001+0,95^2\cdot 0,99$$ Is this correct? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Does it hold that $P(NN\mid D)=P(N\mid D)^2$ and $P(NN\mid D^C)=P(N\mid D^C)^2$ ?
If the two tests are independent, yes.

If yes, does it hold that $P(N\mid D)=0,05$ and $P(N\mid D^C)=0,95$ ?
Yes.

That would mean that we get $$P(NN)=0,05^2\cdot 001+0,95^2\cdot 0,99$$ Is this correct? (Wondering)

Except for the typo where you meant "0.01" and not "0.001", yes.

You know you have not yet answered either question, right?
 
tkhunny said:
Except for the typo where you meant "0.01" and not "0.001", yes.

Ah ok!

So, we have that $$P(NN)=0.05^2\cdot 0.01+0.95^2\cdot 0.99=0.8935$$
tkhunny said:
You know you have not yet answered either question, right?

For the first question we have the following:
$$P(\text{at least one positive})=1-P(\text{no positive})=1-P(NN)=1-0.8935=0.1065$$
Is this correct?

At the suggested solution the result is $0, 093661972$. Can that be? (Wondering) For the second question we have the following:
\begin{align*}P(PP)&=P(PP\cap D)+P(PP\cap D^C) \\ & =P(PP\mid D)\cdot P(D)+P(PP\mid D^C)\cdot P(D^C)\\ & =P(P\mid D)^2\cdot P(D)+P(P\mid D^C)^2\cdot P(D^C)\\ & =0.95^2\cdot 0.01+0.05^2\cdot 0.99 \\ & =0.0115\end{align*}

Again the suggested result is different. It is $0, 784782609$. (Wondering)
 
Isn't the question for P(D|at least one positive) respectively P(D|both positive)? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Isn't the question for P(D|at least one positive) respectively P(D|both positive)? (Wondering)

Ah yes!

So, we have the following: $$P(D|\text{at least one positive})=\frac{P(D\cap \text{at least one positive})}{P(\text{at least one positive})}=\frac{P( \text{at least one positive}\mid D)\cdot P(D)}{0.1065}=\frac{P( \text{at least one positive}\mid D)\cdot 0.01}{0.1065}$$ Is everything correct so far? To what is $P( \text{at least one positive}\mid D)$ equal? (Wondering)
 
Yep! And P(at least one positive|D)=1-P(NN|D).
 
I like Serena said:
Yep! And P(at least one positive|D)=1-P(NN|D).

I see! Thank you! (Smile)
 

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