Problem 2.9a: How to Show the Equation for U(Λ) in Srednicki's QFT Book?

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This discussion revolves around a problem from Srednicki's Quantum Field Theory book, specifically problem 2.9a, which involves demonstrating a relationship between the derivatives of a field and the generators of Lorentz transformations. The participants are examining the implications of the transformation properties of the field and its derivatives under Lorentz transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are analyzing the left-hand side and right-hand side of the transformation equation for the field and its derivatives. They are questioning the presence of an extra factor of two in a term involving the Lorentz transformation generators and discussing the implications of their expansions of the field under transformations.

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Some participants have made progress in understanding the transformation properties and are clarifying their reasoning regarding the signs and factors in their equations. There is ongoing exploration of the correct form of the expansion for the field under Lorentz transformations, with some participants expressing confusion about the notation and assumptions made in Srednicki's approach.

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Participants are grappling with the subtleties of tensor index manipulations and the implications of matrix multiplication in the context of Lorentz transformations. There is a recognition that the notation used in the problem may lead to ambiguity, affecting the interpretation of the transformations involved.

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Homework Statement


This is from Srednicki's QFT book, problem 2.9a:
Let ##\Lambda = 1+\delta\omega## in the equation:
$$ U(\Lambda)^{-1} \partial^{\mu}\varphi(x) U(\Lambda) = \Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho} \overline{\partial^{\rho}}\varphi(\Lambda^{-1}x) $$
where ##\overline{\partial^{\rho}}## denotes differentiation with respect to ##\overline{x^{\rho}} = \Lambda^{\sigma}{}_{\rho} x##. Show that
$$[\partial^{\rho}\varphi(x),M^{\mu \nu}] = \mathcal{L}^{\mu \nu} \partial^{\rho}\varphi(x) + (S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\rho}{}_{\tau}\partial^{\tau}\varphi(x)$$

Homework Equations


$$U(1+\delta\omega) = I + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}M^{\mu \nu}$$
$$\Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\tau} = \delta^{\rho}{}_{\tau} + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}(S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\rho}{}_{\tau}$$
$$\overline{\partial^{\rho}} = \Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma} \partial^{\sigma}$$
$$\mathcal{L}^{\mu \nu} = \frac{\hbar}{i}(x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu} - x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu})$$
$$(S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\rho}{}_{\tau} = \frac{\hbar}{i}(g^{\mu \rho}\delta^{\nu}{}_{\tau} - g^{\nu \rho}\delta^{\mu}{}_{\tau})$$

The Attempt at a Solution


The lhs of the first equation is:
$$U(1-\delta\omega) \partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x) U(1+\delta\omega) = (I - \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}M^{\mu \nu})\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x)(I + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}M^{\mu \nu})$$
To first order in ##\delta\omega##, this is:
$$\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x) + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}[\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x),M^{\mu \nu}]$$
The rhs of the first equation is:
$$\Lambda^{\alpha}{}_{\rho} \Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma}\partial^{\sigma}\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) =(\delta^{\alpha}{}_{\rho} + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\tau \nu}(S^{\tau \nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\rho})(\delta^{\rho}{}_{\sigma} + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\tau \nu}(S^{\tau \nu}_V)^{\rho}{}_{\sigma})\partial^{\sigma}\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) $$
To first order in ##\delta\omega_{\tau \nu}##, we have:
$$\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) +\frac{i}{\hbar}\delta\omega_{\tau \nu}(S^{\tau \nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\sigma}\partial^{\sigma}\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) $$
Expanding ##\varphi(x-x\delta\omega)## to first order gives ##\varphi(x) + \delta\omega_{\mu \nu}x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}\varphi(x) = \varphi(x) + \frac{1}{2}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}(x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}-x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu})\varphi(x)=\varphi(x) + \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}\mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\varphi(x)##, by the antisymmetry of ##\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}##. Substituting this into the above equation and retaining terms to first order in ##\delta\omega## gives:
$$\frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}[\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x),M^{\mu \nu}] = \frac{i}{2\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}\partial^{\alpha}(\mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\varphi(x)) + \frac{i}{\hbar}\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}(S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\sigma}\partial^{\sigma}\varphi(x)$$
Equating terms from each of the indices of ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}## gives us:
$$[\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x),M^{\mu \nu}] =\mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x) + 2(S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\sigma}\partial^{\sigma}\varphi(x)$$
This is almost right, but why am I getting an extra factor of two in front of the ##(S^{\mu \nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\sigma}## term?

EDIT: I'm an idiot. ##\partial^{\alpha}(\mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\varphi(x)) \ne \mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x)##. I'll work on it a little more.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
The rhs of the first equation is:
why 2 Lorentz transformations for the derivative?
 
ChrisVer said:
why 2 Lorentz transformations for the derivative?
Because ##\overline{\partial^{\rho} }= \Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma}\partial^{\sigma}## is the Lorentz transformed derivative with respect to ##\overline{x^{\rho}}=\Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma}x^{\sigma}##, so ##\Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma} \overline{\partial^{\sigma}} = \Lambda^{\rho}{}_{\sigma} \Lambda^{\sigma}{}_{\tau} \partial^{\tau}##.
 
Ok so I got a little further, but now I have a new question. First off, notice that I messed up in my expansion of ##\varphi(x-\delta\omega x)##. It should have a minus sign in front of the ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}## term. This just means that the ##\partial^{\alpha}(\mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\varphi(x))## term in the 2nd to last equation has a negative sign in front of it. Writing this term out explicitly, we get
$$ \frac{\hbar}{i} \partial^{\alpha}(x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}-x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu})\varphi(x) = \mathcal{L}^{\mu\nu}\partial^{\alpha}\varphi(x)+\frac{\hbar}{i} (g^{\mu \alpha}\partial^{\nu}\varphi(x)-g^{\nu\alpha}\partial^{\mu}\varphi(x))$$
The second term is just ##(S^{\mu\nu}_V)^{\alpha}{}_{\tau}\partial^{\tau}\varphi(x)##, so the factor of 2 is taken care of. However, the problem now is that the ##\mathcal{L}## term is negative (due to the corrected negative sign that I mentioned at the beginning of this post). I finally went in and looked at Srednicki's notes, and the big difference is that he expands ##\varphi(x-x\delta\omega)## as
$$\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) = \varphi(x)-\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu}\varphi(x)$$
which allows him to eliminate the superfluous negative in the offending term. What's the justification for this step? Why isn't the expansion
$$\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) = \varphi(x)-\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}\varphi(x)$$
 
So I can rationalize Srednicki's expansion (##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu}## instead of ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}##) in the following way: If ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}## is a matrix and ##x^{\nu}## is a vector, then standard matrix multiplication would look like:
$$\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\nu} = \pmatrix{\delta\omega_{00} & \delta\omega_{01} &\delta\omega_{02} &\delta\omega_{03} \\ \delta\omega_{10} &\delta\omega_{11} &\delta\omega_{12} &\delta\omega_{13} \\\delta\omega_{20} &\delta\omega_{21} &\delta\omega_{22} &\delta\omega_{23} \\\delta\omega_{30} &\delta\omega_{31} &\delta\omega_{32} &\delta\omega_{33} } \pmatrix{x^{0} \\ x^{1} \\ x^{2} \\ x^{3} }$$
which gives a covariant vector indexed by ##\mu##. Then we take the dot product of ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\nu}## and ##\partial^{\mu}## to get the operator that acts on ##\varphi(x)##. The reason the expansion is ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu}## instead of ##\delta\omega_{\mu\nu}x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}## is because the second form isn't compatible with standard matrix multiplication. Is this the right way to think about this problem? Little errors like this are really tripping me up in trying to understand tensor index manipulations in general.

Thanks as always for your help.

Edit: I'm pretty sure the ordering in ##\varphi(\Lambda^{-1}x)=\varphi((1-\delta\omega)x)## is important as well (since matrix multiplication doesn't commute). However, I doubt I would have been able to come up with any of this on my own.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
I finally went in and looked at Srednicki's notes, and the big difference is that he expands ##\varphi(x-x\delta\omega)## as
$$\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) = \varphi(x)-\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu}\varphi(x)$$
which allows him to eliminate the superfluous negative in the offending term. What's the justification for this step? Why isn't the expansion
$$\varphi(x-x\delta\omega) = \varphi(x)-\delta\omega_{\mu \nu}x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu}\varphi(x)$$
I understand your frustration. Unfortunately, there are a lot of little details that authors leave unsaid/unexplained in advanced physics books and this makes it difficult sometimes to reproduce calculations. It seems to me that here, the notation is ambiguous, because the argument of the field, ##x- x \delta \omega## could have meant either ##x_\mu - x^\mu \delta \omega_{\mu \nu}## or ##x_\mu - x^\mu \delta \omega_{\nu \mu}##. Srednicki assumed one and worked with that (and then his equations and results are of course consistent), but without being told explicitly what his choice was, one cannot tell without more information (like for example working out the problem you worked on and imposing that the answer agrees with his).
 
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Thanks for your reply, @nrqed. I'm becoming a little more comfortable with Srednicki's convention now that I've had some time to digest it. Interestingly enough, I made the same sign error in an earlier problem, but it was specifically canceled out by the antisymmetry of ##\delta\omega##, so it's been flying under my radar for a few days now.
 

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