Problem deal with accuracy of thermocouple

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the accuracy of thermocouples and methods to verify their calibration before use in experiments. Participants explore practical approaches for testing thermocouples using ice and boiling water as reference points for temperature measurement.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using ice to achieve 0°C and boiling water for 100°C as a method to verify the accuracy of the thermocouple.
  • Another participant reports a measurement of 1.1°C for ice, questioning whether to adjust all subsequent readings by this amount.
  • A different participant recommends using a thermistor or RTD for applications requiring higher accuracy than ±1.1°C and advises checking the specifications of the thermocouple for accuracy limits.
  • It is mentioned that plotting recorded values with a footnote on accuracy limitations may be necessary for presenting data.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of using a mixture of ice and water for accurate 0°C measurement and raises concerns about the accuracy of the cold junction reference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the adequacy of thermocouples for precise measurements, with some advocating for alternative temperature sensors for higher accuracy. There is no consensus on how to handle discrepancies in measurements or the best practices for presenting data.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues such as the accuracy of the cold junction reference and the need for pure water in the ice-water mixture, indicating that these factors may affect measurement outcomes.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in experimental physics or engineering who are seeking methods to verify the accuracy of temperature measurements using thermocouples.

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How i am going to confirm or make sure the accurate of thermocouple before i use it for measurement in experiment?
Is it ok if ...
I put it in ice in order to get 0 Celsius and put in boiling water to get 100 Celsius?
In the idea case, i should get 0 and 100 Celsius from thermometer..
but what i should do if i got slightly different ?
I don't know how to present about the error if i use it for real experiment...i need help on it...please..
 
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Just go and see what you get with ice and boiling water. That is a great idea to start with.
 
Dr Lots-o'watts said:
Just go and see what you get with ice and boiling water. That is a great idea to start with.

I did a try already..i got a slightly higher for ice. 1.1 Celsius..
If like this..
this mean i have to minus 1.1 Celsius for all value by using that device ?
 
If you need something more accurate than +/- 1.1 deg. C, use a thermistor or RTD. Don't use your TC's for that application. As far as results go, you should have some specs on that specific thermocouple that say what the accuracy of your measurements are. For example, +/- 1.5 deg over the range of 40 deg C - 375 deg C. Consider checking out OMEGA's website for typical errors for a thermocouple class.

If you need to present the temperature in a chart, simply plot the recorded values and add a foot note that shows the accuracy limitations. However, if you are taking the temperature measurements and using them to plot something as a function of temperature you probably need to adjust the accuracy accordingly. Google error propagation.
 
Dr Lots-o'watts said:
Just go and see what you get with ice and boiling water. That is a great idea to start with.
Unless you're at altitude.
 
That should be a mixture of ice and water to get 0, but make sure that you are using pure water, your other source of trouble is your cold junction reference how accurate is that?
 

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