Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the properties of ideals in the polynomial ring k[x,y,z,t], specifically examining the relationship between the product of two ideals, I and J, and their intersection. Participants are exploring the condition under which IJ equals I ∩ J, with a focus on proving the inclusion I ∩ J ⊆ IJ for this specific case.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant states the goal of showing that IJ = I ∩ J, noting that one direction is trivial but struggling with the reverse inclusion.
- Another participant mentions that k is an algebraically closed field, which may be relevant to the discussion.
- A suggestion is made to prove a general case involving comaximal ideals, but a participant points out that this approach does not apply due to the specific nature of the ideals in the polynomial ring.
- One participant proposes examining a polynomial g in I ∩ J, asserting that it must be expressible as a combination of terms from I and J.
- It is noted that since g lies in I, all terms must be multiples of x or y, leading to a representation involving these variables.
- Another participant deduces that g must also be a linear combination of z and (x-t) due to its membership in J, raising questions about the implications for g' and g'' in terms of their membership in I.
- Further exploration of the terms g' and g'' suggests they could also be expressed in terms of x and y, but uncertainty remains about concluding their membership in I.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the applicability of general results about ideals to this specific case, and there is no consensus on how to proceed with the proof of the inclusion I ∩ J ⊆ IJ.
Contextual Notes
The discussion highlights limitations in applying general results about ideals to the specific context of polynomial rings, particularly regarding the structure of ideals in k[x].