Projectile Motion - Find intial velocity when given an angle?

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically determining the initial velocity of a cannonball fired at an angle from a height. The scenario includes given parameters such as the angle of launch, initial height, and final speed in relation to the initial speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem and mentions the need to separate the motion into X and Y components. Some participants suggest using conservation of energy as a potential approach, noting that it may simplify the problem by canceling out unknowns.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting conservation of energy as a viable path. There is an ongoing dialogue about the relevance of the launch angle and its impact on the solution, indicating multiple interpretations are being considered.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of sufficient information to proceed, while participants are discussing the implications of the angle of impact and the effects of height on the energy considerations.

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Homework Statement



A cannonball is fired with initial speed v0 at an angle 30° above the horizontal from a height of 38.4 m above the ground. The projectile strikes the ground with a speed of 1.3v0. Find v0. (Ignore any effects due to air resistance.)


Homework Equations



v= Vo + at

v^2 = Vo^2 + 2a(x-Xo)

x = Xo + volt + .5at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly don't know where to start with this problem. I know it needs to be separated into X and Y components, but it just seems like I don't have enough information to do it.

I mean, what do I know?

x = ?
Xo = 0
Vx = ?
Vox = ? Vcos30 = 1.3Vocos30
Vx = ?
a = 0
t = ?

y = -38.4
Yo = 0
Vy = ?
Voy = ? Vsin30 = 1.3Vosin30
Vy = ?
a = -9.8
t = ?

Can anyone help give me an idea of where to start?
 
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Consider using conservation of energy. You have the initial height and final speed in terms of initial speed. Set up an expression relating initial kinetic energy to final kinetic energy in terms of the speeds given and the change of energy due to the change in height. You should find that the "things you don't know" cancel out of the equation.
 
This would depend on the angle in which the projectile struck the ground.
 
zgozvrm said:
This would depend on the angle in which the projectile struck the ground.

What would?
 
Since all you need to find is the final speed, gneill is right, conservation of energy is the easiest & most direct way to solve the problem.

BTW: Using conservation of energy, you really don't even need the launch angle.
 
zgozvrm said:
This would depend on the angle in which the projectile struck the ground.

No, I spoke too soon...
 
lets give you a hint...
1. horizontal velocity would not change
2. since you know the vertical distance you know the height
 

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