Projectile Motion test problem, involving unk. v0 and y displacement.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a stunt man needing to jump across a river using projectile motion principles. Key variables include the initial velocity, vertical displacement, and the angle of takeoff. The scenario presents challenges due to multiple unknowns and the need to analyze both horizontal and vertical motions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the possibility of treating the initial velocity as a variable to set up separate equations for horizontal and vertical motion. There is mention of using substitution methods and systems of equations, with some expressing uncertainty about the approach.

Discussion Status

Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of equations, but there is no consensus on the best method to proceed. Participants are exploring different strategies to tackle the problem, with some expressing frustration over the complexity of the unknowns involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the presence of two unknowns and the specific conditions of the jump, which complicate the application of standard projectile motion equations.

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Homework Statement


A movie set requires a stunt man to jump across a 40m wide river on a motorcycle. The takeoff ramp on one bank of the river is inclined at 53(degrees) above the horizontal and is 100m above the level of the river. If the bank on the far side is 15 m below the top of the takeoff ramp, what minimum velocity must he have to reach the opposite bank?


Homework Equations


\Deltay = v0yt - .5gt2
\Deltax = v0xt
R = \frac{v<sup>2</sup>sin2\Theta}{g}

The Attempt at a Solution



I've made several attempts to solve this during the test, I'm completely stuck though.
With having 2 variables missing I can't solve the conventional way (Solving for t using the y displacement) because I don't know the 'y' component of velocity.

I don't see how it is possible to solving for t in the x dimension because, ini x velocity is unknown and time is unknown.

Using the max range formula wouldn't do me any good either, because there is a displacement in the y dimension. Even if I try to partially solve using the max range formula I fail, I do not know what distance before the cliff to use as range R
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Right now I'm thinking this problem isn't possible to solve, which is most likely not the case considering it was a test problem.

Extremely eager for someone to prove me wrong:
All help appreciated
-Pat
 
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I think you can do it. Just pick a letter like v for the initial speed and "pretend" you know it so you can write out the separate equations for the horizontal and vertical motion. Some people just can't handle an unknown v and have to run all that through with some number like 47 in place of the v, then erase all the 47's and put in v's afterward!

Anyway, I think you will end up with one horizontal equation and two vertical equations (velocity and distance) with unknowns v and t. You should then be able to solve two of the equations as a system to find v.
 
Let me know if anyone else has any other solutions.

I don't think that we had ever solved any problems as a system of equations. I tried doing this problem thoroughly as a substitution, but it got really messy.
 
You might post your work so we can see what went wrong.
Substitution is one method of solve a system of equations.
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