Projectile Motion with different starting and ending heights

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The problem involves a motorcyclist launching off an incline at an angle of 53 degrees, aiming to reach a ledge that is 40 meters away horizontally and 15 meters lower vertically. The objective is to determine the minimum initial velocity required for the jump.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion relevant to projectile motion, particularly focusing on the relationship between vertical and horizontal components of motion. There is a specific emphasis on the initial vertical speed and its impact on the time of flight.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's calculations, particularly regarding the use of time in the vertical motion equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary equations to relate the initial speed and time, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants note that the initial vertical speed is not zero, which complicates the use of certain equations. There is also recognition of the challenge posed by having two unknowns (initial speed and time) in the equations being considered.

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Homework Statement



A motorcyclist is going off an incline 53 degrees above the horizontal. He wants to land on a ledge 40 meters from the ledge he is launching off of, 15 meters below the edge of the ramp he is laughing off of. Δx = 40m. Δy = -15m. What is the minimum initial velocity he needs to go off the ramp at to barely make the jump?

Homework Equations



Vx = Vocos53
Ag = 9.8 m/s^2
Voy = Vosin53
x = Vx(t)
t = ?
y = yo + Voy(t)-1/2(a)(t)^2


The Attempt at a Solution



If this was a horizontal launch it'd be very simple, but I have no idea what to do with launching off an incline. I tried:

t = square root (2d/a) = square root ((2*15)/9.8) = 1.75 sec

x = Vx(t) therefore 40 = Vx(1.75) ; Vx = 22.86 m/s

Then; Vo = Vx/cos53 = Vo = 22.66/cos53 = 37.99 m/s. The book says this is wrong and I have no idea what to do.
 
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kayman121 said:
t = square root (2d/a) = square root ((2*15)/9.8) = 1.75 sec

t does not equal the square root of 2d/a because the initial vertical speed is not 0. Do you know which equation 2d/a came from? Use that equation; you now have an equation relating vertical displacement (15 m), time, and initial speed. There's one other equation that you need, and it's relating to horizontal speed.
 
ideasrule said:
t does not equal the square root of 2d/a because the initial vertical speed is not 0. Do you know which equation 2d/a came from? Use that equation; you now have an equation relating vertical displacement (15 m), time, and initial speed. There's one other equation that you need, and it's relating to horizontal speed.

Unfortunately, that leaves 2 unknowns in 1 equation. The unknowns being initial speed and time.
 
I said that you need one other equation--namely, the one relating to horizontal speed.
 

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