Projector in an arbitrary basis, howto compute?

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The discussion revolves around the computation of projection operators in a non-orthonormal basis using Dirac notation. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the interpretation and calculation of these operators, particularly in relation to measurement outcomes and overlaps between states.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to define a projector for given states but is uncertain about the coefficients and the implications of their calculations. Some participants question the validity of the projector and whether it satisfies the properties of a projection operator. Others inquire about the original poster's goals and seek clarification on the mathematical aspects involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the mathematical properties of the defined projector and its implications for measurements in quantum mechanics. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by non-orthonormal states and the potential need for alternative measurement approaches, such as POVMs.

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Participants note the constraints of working with non-orthonormal states and the implications for measurement outcomes. The original poster raises questions about the feasibility of constructing a projection operator from these states, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

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Hello!
once again I got trouble with Dirac-notation:

Homework Statement


Given an non-orthonormal basis. Measurement via the projection operator should not give an definit answer, in which state the system was due to the overlap. Geometrical that's clear, but I'm unable to compute that... :(

I tried it for the following states:
[tex]|\psi_0\rangle=|0\rangle[/tex]
[tex]|\psi_1\rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|0\rangle+|1\rangle)[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


My projector looks the following way (I am not sure about the coefficients):

[tex]P=|0\rangle\langle0|+\frac{1}{2} (|0\rangle+|1\rangle)(\langle 0|+\langle 1|)[/tex]
And now I am confused. When I plug state psi1 on both sides I get a sum of several 0s and 1s I don't know how to interprete.

Any hints? Thank you!
 
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What exactly are you trying to do?
 
keen23 said:
My projector looks the following way (I am not sure about the coefficients):

[tex]P=|0\rangle\langle0|+\frac{1}{2} (|0\rangle+|1\rangle)(\langle 0|+\langle 1|)[/tex]

Does [itex]P^2 = P[/itex]? If it doesn't (I don't think that it does), then [itex]P[/itex] is not a projector.

Avodyne said:
What exactly are you trying to do?

I, too, would like to know the answer to this.
 
At the moment I am reading about general measurements and POVMs.
They say, that you can't definitely distinguish two non-orthonormal states by a "normal" measurement, meaning by a projection onto the states (since each has an overlap with the other).
(That's why you need the POVM to do that.)

I just would like to see the math.

Or is that the point, that I can't construct an projection-operator from my non-orthonormal states? But actually you can always project a vector onto its constructing basis vectors, no matter if they are orthogonal or not.

I hope this makes my confusion a bit clearer.
 

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