Proof of Common Divisor of Relatively Prime Integers

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The discussion revolves around the proposition that if 1 is a linear combination of two integers a and b, then a and b are relatively prime. Participants explore the proof of this proposition, examining definitions and logical steps involved in establishing the relationship between linear combinations and the greatest common divisor (gcd).

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  • One participant proposes that since 1 can be expressed as a linear combination of a and b, it follows that the gcd(a,b) must be 1, indicating that a and b are relatively prime.
  • Another participant suggests that if there exists a common divisor n greater than 1, then it would contradict the fact that 1 is a linear combination of a and b, as n cannot divide 1.
  • A later reply reiterates the argument that any common divisor of a and b must also divide any linear combination, leading to the conclusion that if d divides both a and b, then d must equal 1.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the proof steps and seeks clarification on the logic connecting the existence of a common divisor to the conclusion about the gcd.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity and correctness of the proof steps. Some agree on the necessity of showing that any common divisor must equal 1, while others challenge the logical flow and seek further clarification.

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Some participants note missing logical steps in the proposed proofs and question the assumptions made regarding common divisors and linear combinations. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and approaches to proving the proposition.

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This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in number theory, particularly those exploring concepts related to gcd, linear combinations, and proofs involving integers.

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Hello I have the following proposition to prove.

Prop. Let a,b be integers. If 1 is a linear combination of a and b, then a and b are relatively prime.

I am given the following definition.
Let a and b be integers, not both zero. If gcd(a,b)=1, then a and b are said to be relatively prime. Notice that the only common divisors of relatively prime integers are 1 and -1.

My work so far:

(1) Let a,b be integers.
(2) By definition of linear combination there exist integers x,y such that 1=ax+by.
(3) Because 1 is a common divisor of a,b then 1 must be the gcd(a,b)
(4)Therefore a and b are relatively prime

I need help on (3), I know that I am missing some steps and logic but I am not sure what to do. Am I approaching this correctly? Thank you.
 
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If n (>1) is a common divisor of a and b, then n divides ax+by, but ax+by=1 and n cannot divide 1.
 
mathman said:
If n (>1) is a common divisor of a and b, then n divides ax+by, but ax+by=1 and n cannot divide 1.

Would I incorporate this by saying that there exists a common divisor, call it n where n>1, of a and b such that 1= knx+Lny where k and L are integers. so 1=n(kx+Ly). Obviously n cannot divide one, is this saying that therefore the gcd(a,b)=1? Therefore a and b are relatively prime?

Thank you.
 
Does anyone know if this is the correct proof:

(1) Let a,b be integers.
(2) By definition of linear combination there exist integers x,y such that 1=ax+by.
(3) there exists a common divisor, call it n where n>1, of a and b such that 1= knx+Lny where k and L are integers. so 1=n(kx+Ly)
(4)From (3) gcd(a,b)=1
(4)Therefore a and b are relatively prime

Thanks
 
anyone?
 
No, the correct proof would be:

Hipothesis: let a and b be integers, not both zero, such that there are x,y, also integers, such that ax + by = 1.

(1) Any common divisor of a and b must also be a divisor of any linear integer combination af a and b.

(2) Therefore, if d|a and d|b, then d|ax+by, which implies that d|1.

(3) If d is a positive common divisor, then d = 1; in particular gcd(a,b) = 1.

Hopefully, this is will be the last time anyone spells out a proof for you in a non-homework section!
 
Thanks for the help, I am new to the site. Maybe next time you could simply point me in the right direction of where to post instead of getting angry.
 

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