Proof of Sets X,Y: X⊆Y <=> P(X)⊆P(Y)

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The discussion revolves around proving the equivalence between the subset relation of two finite sets \(X\) and \(Y\) and the subset relation of their power sets, specifically that \(X \subseteq Y\) if and only if \(P(X) \subseteq P(Y)\). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and proof techniques related to set theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant begins by attempting to prove \(X \subseteq Y\) implies \(P(X) \subseteq P(Y)\) but expresses uncertainty about the transitive property and how to complete the proof.
  • Another participant outlines a proof showing that if \(X \subseteq Y\), then for any element \(A\) in \(P(X)\), it follows that \(A \subseteq Y\), thus establishing \(P(X) \subseteq P(Y)\). They note that the finiteness of the sets is not relevant to this proof.
  • A participant questions their understanding of the properties of power sets and suggests a backward approach to show that if \(P(X) \subseteq P(Y)\), then \(X \subseteq Y\) by considering single-element subsets.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the backward reasoning but suggests a clearer formulation of the conclusion regarding the subset relation.

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Participants generally agree on the steps involved in proving the implications of the subset relations, but there is some uncertainty regarding the clarity of expressions and the use of symbols in the proofs. The discussion remains unresolved in terms of fully establishing the proofs without further clarification.

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There is a lack of consensus on the clarity of the symbolic representations used in the proofs, and some assumptions about the properties of power sets may not be fully articulated.

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If I have finite sets X,Y, and need to prove that X ⊆ Y <=> P(X) ⊆ P(Y), where P() denotes the power set of a set.

I started out saying that for infinite sets X,Y, x⊆X, and y⊆Y.
Given that X⊆Y, we want to show that P(B)⊆P(Y).
x⊆X, so through transitivity, x⊆Y (is this correct?). From here, I wasn't quite sure how to complete the rest.

And then I need to show the statement is true the other way, so
given P(X)⊆P(Y), show that X⊆Y.
X⊆P(X), and Y⊆P(Y), by definition of power set, so for some x⊆X, and y⊆Y, x⊆P(X), and y⊆P(Y). Am I on the right track here, or did I mess up some rules?
 
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Suppose we are given that $X \subseteq Y$. This means that if $x \in X$,then $x \in Y$.

Now we need to prove that $P(X) \subseteq P(Y)$. So let $A$ be any element of $P(X)$ so that: $A \subseteq X$.

This means for any $a \in A$, we have $a \in X$. Since $X \subseteq Y$, it follows then that $a \in Y$.

Since this is true for ANY $a \in A$, we conclude that $A \subseteq Y$, that is: $A \in P(Y)$. Since $A$ was arbitrary, this establishes that $P(X) \subseteq P(Y)$.

Note that finiteness did not play a role here.

To go the other way, suppose $P(X) \subseteq P(Y)$ and consider, for any $x \in X$, the element $\{x\} \in P(X)$.
 
Okay, it seems I was confusing it up with properties of power sets.

For the second part, I just work backwards, correct?

I show that the element {x}∈P(Y) because of the given condition, and thus x∈Y. Because x∈X, therefore X⊆Y? Did I confuse up some symbols?
 
That looks OK to me...in your conclusion, I would write:

"Because $x \in Y$ whenever $x \in X$, we have $X \subseteq Y$" instead of:

"Because $x \in X$, therefore $X \subseteq Y$".
 

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