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The discussion focuses on deriving the equation P/p=(R/MW)T from the ideal gas law PV=nRT using the relationship P=m/V. It establishes that the pressure (P) divided by the density (p) of air equals the gas constant (R) divided by the molar mass (MW) of air, multiplied by the temperature (T). Key transformations include substituting n with m/MW and recognizing that density is defined as p=m/V. The final equation is confirmed as valid through proper manipulation of the initial equations.

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Homework Statement



Using the equation P=m/V show that the equation PV=nRT can become P/p=(R/MW)T

P=pressure
p=density of air
n=number of moles of gas
R=gas constant
T=temperature
m=mass
V=volume
MW=mass of one mole of air

Homework Equations



P=m/V
PV=nRT
P/p=(R/MW)T

The Attempt at a Solution



I was reading that n=m/MW, is that right?
And where I'm stuck at is properly matching each letter from the first equation with the second one and how that can translate to the final equation.
 
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Hmm, what is big M and W?
 
therealnihl said:
Hmm, what is big M and W?

MW is the mass of one mole of air.
 
PV = nRT
PV = (m/MW)RT
PV/m = RT/MW

as V is the volume of air with mass m:

p = m/V

P/p = RT/MW
 
PV = nRT
PV = (m/MW)RT
PV/m = RT/MW

as V is the volume of air with mass m:

p = m/V

P/p = RT/MW
 
Macch said:
PV = nRT
PV = (m/MW)RT
PV/m = RT/MW

as V is the volume of air with mass m:

p = m/V

P/p = RT/MW
So you said it's safe to basically put it as 1/p=V/m?
Which would allow you to plug it into the final equation?
 

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