Proof question: the sum of the reciprocals of the primes diverges

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the divergence of the sum of the reciprocals of the primes. Participants explore various approaches and reasoning related to this mathematical concept, including the use of infinite products and the harmonic series.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines an approach using the relationship between the sum of the reciprocals of primes and logarithmic divergence, suggesting that since the infinite product diverges, the sum must also diverge.
  • Another participant challenges the claim about the divergence of the infinite product, arguing that not all infinite products of terms greater than 1 are divergent, providing a counterexample.
  • A later reply acknowledges the challenge and expresses agreement with the critique of the initial claim.
  • One participant reflects on their initial method and suggests that starting with a product representation of the harmonic series has proven to be a more fruitful approach.
  • Another participant mentions a proof from a book that indicates the divergence of the series is not immediately obvious and requires additional estimates, referencing a Wikipedia discussion for further context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the initial claim about the divergence of the infinite product. There are multiple competing views on the approaches to proving the divergence of the sum of the reciprocals of the primes, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about the behavior of infinite products and the harmonic series, which are not fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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The gist of the approach I took is that∑1/p = log(e^∑1/p) = log(∏e^1/p) and logx→ ∞ as x→∞.
Proof outline: let ∑1/p = s(x). (...SO I can write this easily on tablet) and note that e^s(x) diverges since e^1/p > 1 for any p and the infinite product where every term exceeds 1 is divergent. Then loge^s(x) diverges as logs as x→∞ would. Thus, since log(e^s(x)= s(x), the sum is found to be divergent
 
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drjohnsonn said:
the infinite product where every term exceeds 1 is divergent.

That's not right.
 
Wow that isvrry wrong indeed. Thank you
 
Taking the advice i was initally given - by starting with a product represation of the harmonic series has cerainly panned out better. i keptthinking "my method doesn't seem right somewhere..."
 
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