Proof that if 32 -|- ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) if a is even

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The discussion revolves around proving the statement that if \( a \) is even, then \( 32 \nmid ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) \). Participants are exploring the implications of even and odd values of \( a \) on the divisibility of the expression.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants are examining the contrapositive of the original statement and discussing the validity of various logical implications. There is an exploration of whether proving the contrapositive suffices to establish the original statement.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the logical structure of the proof. Some are attempting to clarify the distinction between the original statement, its contrapositive, and the converse, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the reasoning process.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the phrasing of the problem statement, which may affect the interpretation of the logical relationships involved. Participants are also addressing the implications of even and odd integers in relation to the divisibility by 32.

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Homework Statement



Proof that if 32 -|- ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) if a is even. (note: -|- means NOT divides)

The question asks for a proof of this statement.

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If a | b, then there exists an integer k such that b = ka.

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If the contrapositive of the statement is true, then so is the statement. So we will prove that if a is odd, then 32 | ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)).Since a is odd, (a^2+3)(a^2+7) is even, 2 | ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)). This must mean that there exists an integer k such that ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) = 2k. ...
 
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32 can't divide the product of 2 odd numbers, right ?
 
Right, but I'm trying to prove that in a sort of fashion that I've already shown (long-winded and specifically showing each step, trying not to assume much).

What you're arguing is something like:

Suppose a is even. Then a^2 is even, so both a^2+3 and a^2+7 are odd. Since 32 is even, 32 \nmid ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)).

However that logic is flawed. This is saying that since the converse of the statement is true, so too must the statement be true. (but that is wrong)
 
You are in error. The proof you posted which you read from my statement is perfecty ok. There's no converse anywhere. The converse would have been something like:

Prove that if 32 doesn't divide (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7) then a is even.

As you can see the converse in not involved in the proof you posted.
 
Prove that 32 divides (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7) if a is odd.

That is the contrapositive, not the converse.

Converse of "if A then B" is "if B then A", the contrapositive is "if not B then not A".

Since A in this case is "if 32 doesn't divide (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7)" and B is "a is even". The converse would be "if a is even then 32 doesn't divide (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7)" and the proof I posted in my second post proves that. However, my point is that the proof of the converse does not always prove the statement.

What I'm trying to do is one of the following:
a) Prove the statement: "if 32 doesn't divide (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7) then a is even"
b) Prove the contrapositive: "if a is odd, 32 divides (a^2 +3) (a^2 +7)"

A little while after my last post I came up with this, and I think this proof is ok:

If the contrapositive of the statement is true, then so is the statement. So we will prove that if a is odd, then 32 | ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)).

Since a is odd, a^2 must be odd so both a^2 +3 and a^2 +7 must be even, but also since a^2 ≥ 1, ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) ≥ 4*8 ≥ 32.
Therefore 32 | ((a^2 +3)(a^2 + 7)).
 
mhz said:
Proof that if 32 -|- ((a^2+3)(a^2+7)) if a is even. (note: -|- means NOT divides)
I think the confusion is stemming from the fact that you have two "ifs" in your problem statement. One of them should not be there, and the meaning will be different depending on which one you keep.
 

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