Proofs by contraposition and contradiction

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The discussion revolves around two mathematical proofs: the first involves proving that if \( n \) is an integer and \( n^2 \) is a multiple of 3, then \( n \) must also be a multiple of 3. The second proof aims to demonstrate, using contradiction, that in a class of \( n \) students with an average score of \( k \) points, at least one student must have received at least \( k \) marks.

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  • Participants explore proof techniques such as contraposition and contradiction. The original poster attempts to establish a proof for the first statement by assuming \( n \) is not a multiple of 3 and deriving implications for \( n^2 \). Others question the validity of these implications and suggest starting from the given conditions instead.
  • For the second proof, the original poster expresses difficulty in proceeding and receives prompts to consider the implications of the average score. Some participants propose alternative assumptions to explore the contradiction.

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Several participants have provided feedback on the proofs, indicating areas that require clarification or further explanation. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the assumptions made in both proofs, with some participants offering alternative perspectives and suggestions for improvement.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of proving statements without assuming prior knowledge of specific proof techniques. The discussion reflects a mix of correct reasoning and areas needing further exploration or justification.

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Homework Statement



(a) Prove that if n is an integer and n2 is a multiple of 3, then n is a multiple of 3.
(b) Consider a class of n students. In an exam, the class average is k points. Prove, using contradiction, that at least one student must have received at least k marks in the exam.

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(a) I think I've solved the first one correctly. Here's my attempt.
Assume that n is not a multiple of 3.
Therefore, n ≠ 3p, where p is an integer.
Therefore, n2 ≠ 9p2.
Therefore, n2 ≠ 3(3p2).
Therefore, n2 is not a multiple of 3.
Therefore, by contraposition, if n2 is a multiple of 3, then n is a multiple of 3.

(b) The second one I've made a partial attempt as I could not figure how to proceed. Here's my attempt.

Assume that class average ≠ k points.
Therefore, total sum of marks of all students ≠ nk points.
No idea of how to proceed from here onwards.

It would be great if you could supply hints on how to carry forward and check my first solution as well.
 
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failexam said:
Assume that n is not a multiple of 3.
Therefore, n ≠ 3p, where p is an integer.
Therefore, n2 ≠ 9p2.
Therefore, n2 ≠ 3(3p2).
That is true, but it doesn't follow that
Therefore, n2 is not a multiple of 3.
You haven't shown that n2 ≠ 3q, for some integer q that is NOT of the form 3p2.

Try starting from what you are given: n2 is a multiple of 3, and of course n2 is a square.

(b) The second one I've made a partial attempt as I could not figure how to proceed.
Think about what "average" means. If all the students received less than k marks, what would the average mark be?
 
I have my new proofs.

a) n2 is a multiple of 3.
Therefore, n2 = 3p, where p is an integer.
n2 is a square.
Therefore, if n2 is to have a factor of 3, it must have an even number of such factors.
Therefore, p = 3q, where q is an integer.
Therefore, n2 = 9q.
Therefore, n = 3√q.
Therefore, n is a multiple of 3.

b) Assume that all students received less than k points.
Therefore, the class average is less than k points.
But, the class average is k points.
Therefore, at least one student must have received at least k points in the exam.

What do you think?
 
Both those proofs are basically OK.

I wouldn't give the first one full marks, because
Therefore, if n2 is to have a factor of 3, it must have an even number of such factors.
is correct, but you didn't explain why it is correct.

For example if n2 was a multiple of 12 instead of 3, n doesn't have to be a multiple of 12 - it could be 6.
 
If n2 were a multiple of 12, then n2 = (22)(32)(k), where k is a constant.

Therefore, it is okay for n to be equal (2)(3)(√k), i.e. for n to be a multiple of 6.

The real crux of the issue lies with the fact that 3 is a prime factor, and therefore 3 cannot be decomposed further into smaller factors. Therefore, an odd number of 3's have to exist within k for n2 to exist and for n to be a integer.

The argument could be written as follows:

3 is a prime factor. Therefore, k must be a multiple of an odd number of 3's for n to be an integer.
Therefore, n2 must have an even number of factors of 3.

How does this look?
 
For (a) a simple proof by contradiction is:
Suppose n is not a multiple of 3. Then n= 3k+1 or n= 3k+ 2 for some integer k. Now square each of 3n+1 and 3n+ 2.

For (b), assume, in contradiction to the conclusion, that no student received at least k points. Then, letting [itex]a_i[/itex] be the number of points the "[itex]i^{th}[/itex]" student received, we must have [itex]a_i< k[/itex] for all i and so [itex]\sum_{i=1}^n a_i< kn[/itex].
 

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