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x(by+cz-ax)=y(cz+ax-by)=z(ax+by-cz)
x/(b+c-a)=y/(c+a-b)=z/(a+b-c)
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x(by+cz-ax)=y(cz+ax-by)=z(ax+by-cz)
The discussion revolves around proving a mathematical relationship involving ratios and equations, specifically the expression x(by+cz-ax)=y(cz+ax-by)=z(ax+by-cz) given the condition x/(b+c-a)=y/(c+a-b)=z/(a+b-c). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving strategies.
There is no consensus on a single method to prove the relationship, as participants suggest various approaches and some express confusion or difficulty in solving the problem.
Participants have not resolved all mathematical steps, and there are indications of missing assumptions or dependencies on definitions related to the variables involved.
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Let $$\frac x{b+c-a} = \frac y{c+a-b} = \frac z{a+b-c} = \lambda.$$ First show that $x+y+z = \lambda(a+b+c).$ Then see if you can find an expression for $ax$ in terms of $x,y,z$ and $\lambda$. Do the same for $by$ and $cx$. Then you will be able to see if $x(by+cz-ax)$ is the same as $y(cz+ax-by)$ and $z(ax+by-cz)$.jewel said:if
x/(b+c-a)=y/(c+a-b)=z/(a+b-c)
prove that..
x(by+cz-ax)=y(cz+ax-by)=z(ax+by-cz)
thanks for advice... i will try that way and seeOpalg said:Let $$\frac x{b+c-a} = \frac y{c+a-b} = \frac z{a+b-c} = \lambda.$$ First show that $x+y+z = \lambda(a+b+c).$ Then see if you can find an expression for $ax$ in terms of $x,y,z$ and $\lambda$. Do the same for $by$ and $cx$. Then you will be able to see if $x(by+cz-ax)$ is the same as $y(cz+ax-by)$ and $z(ax+by-cz)$.
jewel said:thanks for advice... i will try that way and see
There are probably several ways to attack this problem. The method I used was to start with $$\frac x{b+c-a} = \frac y{c+a-b} = \frac z{a+b-c} = \lambda.$$ Then $$x = \lambda(b+c-a),$$ $$y = \lambda(c+a-b),$$ $$z = \lambda(a+b-c).$$ Add those equations to get $x+y+z = \lambda(a+b+c)$. Now subtract the first of those three displayed equations, giving $y+z = 2\lambda a$. Next, multiply that by $x$: $$xy+xz = 2\lambda ax.$$ In a similar way, $$yx + yz = 2\lambda by,$$ $$zx+zy = 2\lambda cz.$$ At this stage, take a look at what you are trying to prove, and see if you can get there.Let $$\frac x{b+c-a} = \frac y{c+a-b} = \frac z{a+b-c} = \lambda.$$ First show that $x+y+z = \lambda(a+b+c).$ Then see if you can find an expression for $ax$ in terms of $x,y,z$ and $\lambda$. Do the same for $by$ and $cx$. Then you will be able to see if $x(by+cz-ax)$ is the same as $y(cz+ax-by)$ and $z(ax+by-cz)$.
thanks a lot ... i got it ...:)Opalg said:There are probably several ways to attack this problem. The method I used was to start with $$\frac x{b+c-a} = \frac y{c+a-b} = \frac z{a+b-c} = \lambda.$$ Then $$x = \lambda(b+c-a),$$ $$y = \lambda(c+a-b),$$ $$z = \lambda(a+b-c).$$ Add those equations to get $x+y+z = \lambda(a+b+c)$. Now subtract the first of those three displayed equations, giving $y+z = 2\lambda a$. Next, multiply that by $x$: $$xy+xz = 2\lambda ax.$$ In a similar way, $$yx + yz = 2\lambda by,$$ $$zx+zy = 2\lambda cz.$$ At this stage, take a look at what you are trying to prove, and see if you can get there.
jewel said:thanks a lot ... i got it ...:)