Proposed dark matter detector - how does it work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a proposed DNA-based dark matter detector, exploring its fundamental premise, potential materials, and methods of operation. Participants raise questions regarding the interaction of dark matter with gold, the choice of materials, and the feasibility of the proposed detection methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the rationale behind using gold in the detector, suggesting that other materials might be more suitable and asking for evidence of dark matter's interaction with gold.
  • Another participant speculates that gold's chemical properties, such as resistance to corrosion and ease of handling, may justify its use.
  • Some participants discuss the potential advantages of the DNA detector in providing high-precision tracking of dark matter interactions compared to conventional detectors, which may struggle with low-energy events.
  • There is a suggestion that PCR is used to amplify the signal from severed DNA strands, allowing for better identification of events, although one participant proposes that optical tweezers could provide real-time detection with additional information.
  • A later reply raises concerns about the longevity of the detector, questioning how it would withstand background radiation and the density of interacting particles.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of using the detector for a general neutrino telescope, suggesting that low detection rates could be compensated by integrating over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the choice of materials and methods, with no consensus on the effectiveness or appropriateness of the proposed DNA-based detector compared to traditional methods. The discussion remains unresolved on several technical aspects and the viability of the detector.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the assumptions about dark matter interactions, the potential for background radiation to affect the detector, and the unresolved nature of the proposed detection methods.

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A few weeks ago I stumbled upon an MIT Technology Review article about a DNA-based dark matter detector. As a biologist I thought the idea was strange, since I didn't see how DNA would interact with dark matter in a way that a more easily manufacturable material such as silicon wouldn't. I put off reading the article until today and now that I have, I still don't get the fundamental premise.

First, a link to the article: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428391/revolutionary-dna-tracking-chamber-could-detect/

The idea seems to be that you have an array of single stranded DNA attached to a gold chip. A "dark matter particle" transfers kinetic energy into a gold nucleus, sending it flying through the DNA array and severing the chemical bonds along its trajectory. The severed DNA is collected, amplified via PCR (a molecular biology technique for rapid DNA replication, for those who haven't heard of it), and sequenced. Since each DNA strand in the array has a different sequence, the identity of the severed DNA strands provides a record of the 3-dimensional direction in which the gold nucleus traveled. This is then compared to the time of day to test the hypothesis that the Earth travels into the dark matter field while rotating towards Cygnus, and away from it while rotating away from Cygnus.

Since I have no knowledge at all about dark matter, I have a couple questions about the proposed detector.

1: Is there any evidence that dark matter interacts with gold? Why particularly gold instead of another element?
2: If there is such evidence, why rely on a prototype, expensive, never-before-tested DNA-based detector rather than a detector film such as that used for Rutherford backscattering analysis or other surface science techniques?
3: If the detector is built and produces a signal, would it be reasonable to assume that the signal comes from dark matter rather than any other process such as residual radioactivity that could knock out a nucleus?

Thanks!
 
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I agree that gold is probably chosen for its chemical properties - no corrosion, easy to handle, maybe it is easy to attach DNA?

Weakly interacting particles could interact with all matter in some way, heavy nuclei might have a bigger cross-section (as they just have more matter inside).

There are conventional detectors searching for dark matter, but if the energy of the moving atom is very low, it is hard to detect it with them. As far as I understand the article, the DNA detector gives a short 3-dimensional track of high precision for signal events, and long tracks (in multiple layers) for background radiation. Conventional detectors have a resolution of ~50µm, a nanometer-precision would be a big step.
 
Interesting , clever idea at that.
 
Gold has a heavy nucleus giving it a high cross section, which means it presents a bigger target for a collision with a DM particle.
 
Fascinating. I wonder why PCR though, I would have thought a DNA cantilever/optical tweezers would have worked far better and been less fiddly. Perhaps the energy is too high?
 
PCR is just a method to amplify the signal (the splitted segments of DNA) - instead of a single DNA pattern, you get 10^x which can be identified with chemical methods.
 
mfb said:
PCR is just a method to amplify the signal (the splitted segments of DNA) - instead of a single DNA pattern, you get 10^x which can be identified with chemical methods.
I'm not sure if you were replying to me but if you were I fully understand what PCR is (cue flashback to hours and hours of undergrad research). My point though was that with an optical tweezer you could detect the impact in real time, get more information about it such as the energy involved and it would be non destructive.
 
How do you get a 3-dimensional track plus a momentum measurement of a slow, free atom with optical tweezers?
If the background level is low enough, real-time measurements are not required.
 
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I'm wondering if you could use this for a general neutrino telescope. You make up for the low detection rates by integrating the detector over time.
 
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I'm wondering how long you could use such a chip for. Once the DNA strand is cleaved, it's gone. I have no idea what the interacting particle density would be; if you have a lot of gold nuclei flying around you could quickly destroy the detector. How is it going to be isolated so that background radiation doesn't kill the detector before a signal is found?
 

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