Proton enters magnetic field in spiral trajectory

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The problem involves a proton moving in a spiral path within a magnetic field of 5 T, with a specified pitch of 5 cm. The objective is to determine the angle between the velocity vector and the magnetic field vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the velocity into components and question the definition of pitch. There is an exploration of the relationship between the pitch, velocity components, and the forces acting on the proton.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the components of velocity and how they relate to the forces involved. There is recognition that additional information, such as speed or radius, is necessary to progress further in solving for the angle.

Contextual Notes

The problem is constrained by the information provided, which does not include values for speed or radius, making it challenging to find a definitive solution for the angle.

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Homework Statement


A proton moves in a spiral path when enters a magnetic field of 5 T. If the pitch is 5 cm, find the angle between v and B.


Homework Equations


F = B q v sin θ
F = m v2 / r


The Attempt at a Solution


I am guessing that I need to break down the velocity into two components but still don't know how to use it. What is pitch actually?

Thanks
 
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That is it went 5 cm up or down after one revolution.
 
The pitch of a spiral is the distance moved after one complete revolution.
The diagram in section 2.5 of this wiki article is fairly clear:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread

The two velocity components would be
vsinθ perpendicular to B
vcosθ parallel to B

vsinθ should be used in both the equations you give not just the first one.
The two forces can then be equated.
The pitch of the spiral is equal to vcosθ x (time period for one revolution, T) ie distance=speed x time
But T also is equal to 2πr/vsinθ.

Using the above ideas I found an expression for θ that still had one unknown in it. Is there any other information given in the question?
 
Basic_Physics said:
That is it went 5 cm up or down after one revolution.

apelling said:
The pitch of a spiral is the distance moved after one complete revolution.
The diagram in section 2.5 of this wiki article is fairly clear:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_thread

The two velocity components would be
vsinθ perpendicular to B
vcosθ parallel to B

vsinθ should be used in both the equations you give not just the first one.
The two forces can then be equated.
The pitch of the spiral is equal to vcosθ x (time period for one revolution, T) ie distance=speed x time
But T also is equal to 2πr/vsinθ.

Using the above ideas I found an expression for θ that still had one unknown in it. Is there any other information given in the question?

That's all the information given. I get your idea. We have to know either the speed or radius to be able to solve for angle.

Thanks a lot for your help :)
 

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