Prove 4 Vectors: Last Hope for Finding an Answer

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The discussion revolves around the classification of velocity as a 4-vector in the context of relativistic physics. The original poster seeks to understand why velocity is not considered a 4-vector, while other quantities like momentum and the 4-velocity are. The inquiry is focused on proving this distinction.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants suggest testing the transformation properties of velocity to determine if it qualifies as a 4-vector. There is a request for guidance on which resources or formulas to utilize in this exploration. Some participants emphasize understanding the definition of 4-vectors before attempting the proof.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different resources and approaches to clarify the properties of 4-vectors. There is a mix of suggestions regarding the use of specific links and the importance of understanding the underlying concepts before applying formulas.

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There is a mention of the need to understand how proper time and scalar quantities relate to the proof of 4-vectors, indicating that the discussion may involve complex mathematical relationships and definitions that are currently under examination.

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In books, it is always posted that velocity (dx[itex]^{i}[/itex]/dt) is not a 4 vector. While du[itex]^{i}[/itex]/ds and momentum are 4 vectors.. But it is never proved.

How to prove this?? I am not finding anyway to it.

You're my last hope!
 
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Thank you for the reply, but can you tell me which one to use? I mean which formula from the two links?
 
Do not apply formulas - test the properties of a 4-vector.
If you do not know how a 4-vector transforms, then learn and revisit the problem of a proof later.
 
Oh thank you! You mean that if I took the proper time and divided that by ds = cdt [itex]\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}[/itex] I should get the 4 components of U. And I say that yes, these looks like (dA^0, dA^1, dA^2, dA^3) as in your link so it is a 4 vector. Right?
 
sorry I meant if I took Ui and divided that by ..
 

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