Prove Electric Force on Triangle ABC Lies on Bisector

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The discussion revolves around proving that the electric force at point A in triangle ABC, influenced by a continuous charge distribution along side BC, lies on the bisector of angle BAC. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics and geometric reasoning.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the electric field and the geometry of the triangle, with one suggesting a proof by contradiction involving rotation of the triangle. Others question the validity of assumptions regarding the triangle's symmetry and the implications of rotating the triangle around the bisector.

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Consider triangle ABC,the continues charges distribution lies on the side of BC with the linear charge density such as m,prove that the direction of electric force in the point A lies on the bisector of the viewing angle BAC
 
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You can prove that almost without knowing anything about electric field! We only need to know that field is determined by electric charge and that laws of physics are the same in all non-accelerated coordinate systems.

We will use this simple theory:

If we rotate the triangle (around any axis) by an angle alfa then the field will also rotate by the same angle (around the same axis). This can be proved by solving this problem in a rotated coordinate system (by alfa) where the rotated triangle seems the same as original triangle in original system (so the solution is the same). Then we transform the field vector back into original sistem and we find out it has rotated by alfa.

Proof by contadiction:
Let's suppose that the field does not lie on the bisector. If we rotate the triangle around bisector by alfa=180 degrees, then the field will also rotate, resulting in changed direction of the field. However this rotation transforms triangle back into itself! We got a different electric field from the same charge distribution! This is imposible, so the assumption that field does not lie on bisector is wrong.
 
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I think your assumpion is not right.why If we rotate the triangle around bisector by alfa=180 degrees, then rotation transforms riangle back into itself! It is true only for AB=AC!
 
Sorry, I missread the question. Here is proof for general triangle:

Use polar coordinates, with the bisector for fi=0 axes. It is enough to show, that
sections of charged line on intervals (fi,fi+dfi) and (-fi,-fi-dfi) exactly cancel each other
out (as far as perpendicular component of E is concerned). Since sin(-fi)=sin(fi), it is enough to show that the magnitudes are the same.

Contributions of these sections are:

r^-2*dl (times a constant)

We can prove that both magnitudes of dE are the same by proving

r^-2*dl/dfi=const (independent of fi) (1)

This is easy: if delta is angle between r and BC, then

dl=r*dfi/cos(delta), r=d/cos(delta)

where d is the shortest distance between (infinitely extended) BC line and point A.

If you put dl=dfi*d/cos(delta)^2 and r=d/cos(delta) into equation (1),
you find out the expression is really independent of fi.
 
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excuse me,I don't underestand your solution
 
Sma: You have posted this question TWICE in a very short period of time

and don't ask for solutions, and also you MUST give attempt to soultion.

Lojzek: never give full solutions

Please read and follow the rules of this forum.
 

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