Prove Minkowski Inequality using Cauchy-Schwartz Inequality

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The discussion revolves around proving the Minkowski inequality using the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. Participants explore mathematical reasoning related to vector norms and inequalities in the context of real vector spaces.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expands the expression (x+y)(x+y) and derives x^2 + y^2 > 2xy, then attempts to relate it to the inequality ||x+y|| <= ||x|| + ||y||.
  • Another participant defines x and y in R and establishes that (x+y)·(x+y) >= 0, leading to the inequality sum(x^2 + y^2) >= sum(2xy), and attempts to apply the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality.
  • A third participant questions the initial approach and clarifies that they are trying to prove the relationship between the inner product and norms, suggesting that the inequality being discussed is the triangle inequality.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the clarification provided by another participant, indicating progress in understanding the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the terminology used, with one participant referring to the Minkowski inequality as the triangle inequality. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific steps to prove the inequality.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the vectors x and y, particularly regarding their non-zero status and the definitions of the norms and inner products being used.

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I expanded (x+y),(x+y) and got x^2+y^2 > 2xy then replaced 2xy with 2|x,y| but now I'm stuck.

I need to get it to ||x+y|| <= ||x|| + ||y||. Am I close?
 
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Here's what I did so far...

Let x=(x1,x2..xn) and y=(y1,y2..yn) in R. Assume x,y not = 0. Then (x+y)dot(x+y) = sum(x^2+2xy+y^2) >= 0. Then I rewrote it as sum(x^2 +y^2) >= sum(2xy). Using Cauchy Schwartz Inequality, sum(2xy) = 2|x dot y| <=2( ||x|| ||y||). So now I have this:

sum(x^2) +sum(y^2) <= 2( ||x|| ||y||).

I'm not even sure I'm doing the right thing. Can anyone help?
 
Start with [itex]\|x+y\|^2[/itex]. This is less than what?

I'm assuming that what you're trying to prove is that

[tex]|\langle x,y\rangle|\leq \|x\|\|y\|\Rightarrow \|x+y\|\leq\|x\|+\|y\|[/tex]

I'm not familiar with the term "Minkowski inequality". I would call the inequality on the right the "triangle inequality". (Edit: Aha, it's the triangle inequality for a specific Hilbert space).

By the way, if you click the quote button next to this post, you can see how I did the LaTeX. Keep in mind that there's a bug that causes the wrong images to appear in previews most of the time, so you will need to refresh and resend after each preview.
 
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Thank you Fredrik. I got it.
 

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