Prove Tensor Analysis Relation: Γᵢₖᵣ = ∊ᵢ • ∂∊ⱼ/∂qᵏ

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around proving a relation in tensor analysis involving the Christoffel symbols and the derivatives of basis vectors. Participants explore the connection between these mathematical constructs, particularly in the context of differential geometry and covariant derivatives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a relation involving the Christoffel symbols and asks for a proof of another related expression.
  • Another participant humorously inquires about compensation for providing help.
  • A participant acknowledges a proof they previously knew but expresses confusion about its applicability to the inverse relation.
  • Discussion shifts to covariant derivatives, with one participant indicating they are learning about them and referencing a textbook.
  • A later reply connects the original question to a specific expression involving covariant derivatives and the Christoffel symbols.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof of the relation, and there are varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the concepts discussed. The conversation includes both agreement on certain mathematical expressions and differing interpretations of their applicability.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the conditions under which the relations hold, particularly regarding the inverse relationship and the context of covariant derivatives.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and enthusiasts of tensor analysis, differential geometry, and those seeking to understand the relationships between Christoffel symbols and derivatives of basis vectors may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello. I'm learning tensor analysis. I have a problem. We know that

\Gamma^i_{jk}=\vec{\epsilon^i}\cdot\frac{\partial\vec{\epsilon_j}}{\partial q^k}

Please prove the relation

\frac{\partial\vec{\epsilon_j}}{\partial q^k}=\Gamma^m_{jk}\vec{\epsilon_m}

Thanks very much in advance
 
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Arham said:
Hello. I'm learning tensor analysis. I have a problem. We know that

\Gamma^i_{jk}=\vec{\epsilon^i}\cdot\frac{\partial\vec{\epsilon_j}}{\partial q^k}

Please prove the relation

\frac{\partial\vec{\epsilon_j}}{\partial q^k}=\Gamma^m_{jk}\vec{\epsilon_m}

Thanks very much in advance
\Gamma^m_{jk}\vec{\epsilon_m}\cdot\vec{\epsilon^i}<br /> =\Gamma^m_{jk}\delta^i{}_m=\Gamma^i_{jk}
 
Thanks hanskuo.

I knew this proof, but I thought that it is only correct for the inverse relation. I was wrong!
 
you are wellcome, Arham

Now I'm learning Differential Geometry,too.
do you begin to lerane covariant derivatives or not ?
 
I'm an undergraduate physics student, hanskuo. I am learning tensor analysis from George Arfken's book. As you know, this book has a brief introduction to Covariant Derivative; I have read it. But I should do more exercises and read more about it in future.
 
There are a lot of things interesting for covariant derivatives.
your original question likes this:
<br /> \nabla_{e_i}e_j=\Gamma^k{}_{ij}e_k
 

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