Trouble understanding ##g^{jk}\Gamma^{i}{}_{jk}##

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation and significance of the expression ##g^{jk}\Gamma^{i}{}_{jk}## in the context of Riemannian geometry. Participants explore its role in the Laplace–Beltrami operator and seek clarity on its meaning and naming conventions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the interpretation of ##g^{jk}\Gamma^{i}{}_{jk}## and its relation to the Laplace–Beltrami operator, specifically questioning the second term in the operator's expression.
  • Another participant humorously suggests naming the term ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}## as ##a^i##.
  • A question is posed regarding the reason for the two terms in the covariant derivative of a vector, which is acknowledged as a source of confusion.
  • A participant inquires about whether there is a specific name for the identity relating ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}## to the derivative of the determinant of the metric tensor, but no name is provided.
  • It is suggested that inquiries about indices in Riemannian geometry might yield more responses in the relativity forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation or naming of ##g^{jk}\Gamma^{i}{}_{jk}##, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the identity's specific nomenclature.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion surrounding the covariant derivative and the expression's interpretation, but no specific assumptions or definitions are clarified.

shooride
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Hi friends,

I'm learning Riemannian geometry. I'm in trouble with understanding the meaning of ##g^{jk}\Gamma^{i}{}_{jk}##. I know it is a contracting relation on the Christoffel symbols and one can show that ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}=\frac{-1}{\sqrt{g}}\partial_j(\sqrt{g}g^{ij})## using the Levi-Civita connection, etc-- rhs is similar to the divergence of an antisymmetric tensor field (!)--. But, how should one interpret and call ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}##?! I'm interested in this term since it appears in the Laplacian of the function ##f## (Laplace–Beltrami operator). Especially, ##\Delta f=div ~\nabla f= \partial^2 f-g\Gamma\partial f## (not using the Einstein notation). The interpretation of first term in the rhs is clear; Is there any clear/simple interpretation for second term?!
 
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I guess I should name ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}##, ##a^i##:biggrin:.
 
First, do you understand why the covariant derivative of a vector has 2 terms? (I.e., a partial derivative and a term involving ##\Gamma##) ?
 
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strangerep said:
First, do you understand why the covariant derivative of a vector has 2 terms? (I.e., a partial derivative and a term involving ##\Gamma##) ?
Yeah, since the covariant derivative is a covariant :biggrin:. I think I was a bit confused when I asked this question :oops:. Anyway, do you know whether there is a particular name for the identity ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}=\frac{-1}{\sqrt{g}}\partial_j(\sqrt{g}g^{ij})##?!
 
shooride said:
[...] do you know whether there is a particular name for the identity ##g^{jk}\Gamma^i{}_{jk}=\frac{-1}{\sqrt{g}}\partial_j(\sqrt{g}g^{ij})##?!
No, I don't know a name.

BTW, for Riemannian geometry stuff involving indices, (which mathematicians usually hate), you can sometimes get more answers by asking in the relativity forum.
 

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