Prove the formula for the maximum of two numbers

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The discussion revolves around proving the formula for the maximum of two numbers, specifically the expression max(x,y) = (x+y+|y-x|)/2. Participants explore the definition of the maximum function and its mathematical properties.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest considering different cases based on the relationship between x and y (x > y and y > x) and using the definition of absolute value. Some express uncertainty about whether the proof is sufficient, while others question the completeness of the argument by noting the case when x equals y.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the proof's validity, with participants providing different approaches and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the proof, but there is no explicit consensus on its sufficiency yet.

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Participants mention the need to consider all possible cases, including when x equals y, to ensure the proof is comprehensive. There is also a reference to a textbook that may influence the discussion's depth and complexity.

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Homework Statement



The maximum of two numbers x and y is denoted by max(x,y). Thus max(-1,3) = max (3,3) = 3. Prove that:

[tex] \mathrm{max}(x,y) = \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}[/tex]

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I have no idea where to begin. I've thought about it for a long time, I swear! Any hints on how to get started?
 
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You'll need to consider two cases: x>y and y>x. Then use that with the definition of absolute value. That should show the right results.
 
Here's an attempt:

Assume x > y .

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+x-y}{2}\\<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+|x-y|}{2}\\<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

But I haven't proved it yet...
 
Brian-san said:
You'll need to consider two cases: x>y and y>x. Then use that with the definition of absolute value. That should show the right results.

Okay, so I'm on the right track with that last post.

Assume y > x .
[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y-x+y}{2}\\<br /> &= \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]
 
So is that a sufficient proof? Because it could just as well be

[tex] \mathrm{max}(x,y) = \frac{x+y+|x-y|}{2}[/tex]

couldn't it?
 
With each case, you can show that the formula leaves you with one value x, or y, that should be enough for the proof.
 
Brian-san said:
With each case, you can show that the formula leaves you with one value x, or y, that should be enough for the proof.

Ah, thank you very much.
 
(1) Assume x > y .

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}\\<br /> &= \frac{x+y+(x-y)}{2}\\<br /> &= \frac{2x}{2}\\<br /> &= x<br /> \end{align*}[/tex](2) Now assume y > x .

[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}\\<br /> &= \frac{x+y+(y-x)}{2}\\<br /> &= \frac{2y}{2}\\<br /> &= y<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]Therefore:
[tex] \mathrm{max}(x,y) &= \frac{x+y+|y-x|}{2}[/tex]

is true for all values of x,y provided x,y are real numbers.

(Although I'm still not thoroughly convinced that it's sufficient...)
 
Since x and y are arbitrary real numbers, I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a strong enough proof. You can make an argument about how you come to that particular formula, but I don't think it's necessary.
 
  • #10
There is the third possibility that y=x. Include and your proof is complete.

ehild
 
  • #11
ehild said:
There is the third possibility that y=x. Include and your proof is complete.

ehild

Thanks very much.
 
  • #12
you're reading from the spivak textbook are you? your post on x^2 + xy + y^2 > 0 was also an exercise from the textbook
 
  • #13
yes i am. it's such an awful textbook, it gives practically no examples.

or maybe i should say that it's a textbook that require a bit more thinking...
 

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