Prove the trigonometry identity and hence solve given problem

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The discussion revolves around proving a trigonometric identity and solving related problems. Participants explore various approaches to manipulate trigonometric expressions, particularly focusing on identities involving sine and cosine functions.

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  • Some participants suggest starting with known identities and manipulating them to prove the desired equation. Others question the validity of assuming the equality of expressions without demonstrating the reversibility of operations. There are discussions on using half-angle formulas and substitutions to simplify expressions.

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Participants are actively sharing different methods and questioning assumptions made in the approaches. There is a mix of agreement on certain techniques, while others express skepticism about specific steps taken in the proofs. Some have noted alternative methods, such as using Euler's formula, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Some participants highlight the importance of ensuring that operations used in proofs are one-to-one, and there is an emphasis on the need for clarity in demonstrating the equality of expressions. Various approaches are being considered, including those from personal notes and established mathematical identities.

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Prove that ##\csc ∅ - \cot ∅ = \tan \dfrac {∅}{2}##. Hence, deduce that ##\tan \dfrac {π}{8} = \sqrt{2} -1## and find ##\tan \dfrac {3π}{8}## in terms of ##a+ b\sqrt{2}##
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Ok my approach; let ##\tan \dfrac{∅}{2}=t##

##\dfrac{1}{\sin ∅} - \dfrac{\cos∅ }{\sin ∅}=t##

##\dfrac{1-\cos ∅}{\sin ∅}=t##

##\dfrac{1+t^2-(1-t^2)}{1+t^2} ⋅\dfrac{1+t^2}{2t}=t## thus true.

for second part;

Let ##\dfrac{∅}{2}=\dfrac{π}{8}##

it follows that ##∅ = \dfrac{π}{4}##

therefore; ##\dfrac{1}{\sin \dfrac{1}{4} π} - \dfrac{\cos\dfrac{1}{4}π }{\sin \dfrac{1}{4}π} ##=## \sqrt{2} ## ##-\dfrac {1}{\sqrt{2}}## ⋅## \sqrt{2}##= ##\sqrt{2}-1##

Lastly;

##\tan \dfrac{3π}{8}= \tan \dfrac{π}{4} +\tan \dfrac{π}{8}##

=## \dfrac{\tan \dfrac{π}{4} +\tan \dfrac{π}{8}}{1-\tan \dfrac{π}{4} ⋅\tan \dfrac{π}{8}}##

=##\dfrac{1+\sqrt{2}-1}{1-\sqrt{2}+1} ##

= ##\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2-\sqrt{2}}## ⋅ ##\dfrac{2+\sqrt{2}}{2+\sqrt{2}}##

=##\dfrac{2+2\sqrt{2}}{2}= 1+\sqrt{2}##

Of course i know there might be a slightly different approach...would appreciate any comments. Cheers guys!
 
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chwala said:
Ok my approach; let ##\tan \dfrac{∅}{2}=t##

##\dfrac{1}{\sin ∅} - \dfrac{\cos∅ }{\sin ∅}=t##
You're assuming what you intend to prove. The only time this is a reasonable approach is when all of the subsequent steps are reversible; i.e., one-to-one operations.

Since you haven't shown that all of your applied operations are one-to-one, a better way is to start with the expression on one side, and then manipulate it to get a sequence of equal expressions that eventually are equal to the other side of the equation you want to prove.
chwala said:
##\dfrac{1-\cos ∅}{\sin ∅}=t##

##\dfrac{1+t^2-(1-t^2)}{1+t^2} ⋅\dfrac{1+t^2}{2t}=t## thus true.
It's not at all obvious to me how the left side above is equal to ##{1 - \cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)}##.
If in fact they are equal, then you have proved that t = t, which is trivial.
chwala said:
for second part;

Let ##\dfrac{∅}{2}=\dfrac{π}{8}##

it follows that ##∅ = \dfrac{π}{4}##

therefore; ##\dfrac{1}{\sin \dfrac{1}{4} π} - \dfrac{\cos\dfrac{1}{4}π }{\sin \dfrac{1}{4}π} ##=## \sqrt{2} ## ##-\dfrac {1}{\sqrt{2}}## ⋅## \sqrt{2}##= ##\sqrt{2}-1##

Lastly;

##\tan \dfrac{3π}{8}= \tan \dfrac{π}{4} +\tan \dfrac{π}{8}##

=## \dfrac{\tan \dfrac{π}{4} +\tan \dfrac{π}{8}}{1-\tan \dfrac{π}{4} ⋅\tan \dfrac{π}{8}}##

=##\dfrac{1+\sqrt{2}-1}{1-\sqrt{2}+1} ##

= ##\dfrac{\sqrt{2}}{2-\sqrt{2}}## ⋅ ##\dfrac{2+\sqrt{2}}{2+\sqrt{2}}##

=##\dfrac{2+2\sqrt{2}}{2}= 1+\sqrt{2}##

Of course i know there might be a slightly different approach...would appreciate any comments. Cheers guys!
 
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I would start from <br /> \begin{split}<br /> \cos \theta &amp;= 1 - 2\sin^2(\theta/2) \\<br /> \sin \theta &amp;= 2\cos(\theta/2)\sin(\theta/2) \end{split} and substitute these into <br /> \csc\theta - \cot\theta = \frac{1 - \cos \theta}{\sin \theta}.
 
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Mark44 said:
You're assuming what you intend to prove. The only time this is a reasonable approach is when all of the subsequent steps are reversible; i.e., one-to-one operations.

Since you haven't shown that all of your applied operations are one-to-one, a better way is to start with the expression on one side, and then manipulate it to get a sequence of equal expressions that eventually are equal to the other side of the equation you want to prove.
It's not at all obvious to me how the left side above is equal to ##{1 - \cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)}##.
If in fact they are equal, then you have proved that t = t, which is trivial.
Noted @Mark44 ... Ok we can have;

##\dfrac{1-\cosθ}{\sin θ}=\dfrac{\sin \dfrac{θ}{2}}{cos \dfrac{θ}{2}}##

We know from;

##\cos 2θ =\cos^2θ-\sin^2 θ##

##\cos 2θ =1-2\sin^2 θ## , therefore it follows that;
##\cos θ = 1- 2\sin^2 \dfrac{1}{2}θ##

Also from ##\sin 2θ=2\sin θ \cos θ##, We shall have
##\sin θ = 2 \sin \dfrac{1}{2}θ \cos \dfrac{1}{2}θ##

therefore,

##\dfrac{1-\cosθ}{\sin θ}=\dfrac{1-(1-2\sin^2 \dfrac{1}{2}θ)}{\sin θ}=\dfrac{2\sin^2 \dfrac{1}{2}θ}{2 \sin \dfrac{1}{2}θ \cos \dfrac{1}{2}θ}=\dfrac{\sin \dfrac{θ}{2}}{cos \dfrac{θ}{2}}=\tan \dfrac{θ}{2}##
 
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pasmith said:
I would start from <br /> \begin{split}<br /> \cos \theta &amp;= 1 - 2\sin^2(\theta/2) \\<br /> \sin \theta &amp;= 2\cos(\theta/2)\sin(\theta/2) \end{split} and substitute these into <br /> \csc\theta - \cot\theta = \frac{1 - \cos \theta}{\sin \theta}.
Great idea !
 
From my university notes; i just noted that we could also use Euler approach and binomal formula for ##\cos 2θ## and ##\sin2θ## ; i.e

##\cos 2θ+ i \sin 2∅= (\cos θ+ i \sin ∅)^2=\cos^2θ+ _2C_1⋅i\cos θ\sinθ+ _2C_2⋅i^2\sin^2 θ##

where;

##\cos 2θ=\cos^2θ+_2C_2⋅i^2\sin^2 θ= \cos^2θ-\sin^2θ## and

##i\sin 2θ=_2C_1⋅i\cos θ\sinθ##

##⇒\sin 2θ=2\sin θ\cos θ##

Bingo!
 
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