Prove ||x|-|y||≤|x-y|, where x and y are complex

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The discussion centers on proving the inequality ||x| - |y|| ≤ |x - y| for complex numbers x and y. Participants emphasize the need to demonstrate two inequalities: |x| - |y| ≤ |x - y| and |x| - |y| ≥ -|x - y|, which together establish the desired result. The use of the triangle inequality |x + y| ≤ |x| + |y| is highlighted as a crucial tool in the proof process. Additionally, a related inquiry into the conditions for equality in the Schwartz inequality is mentioned, showcasing the interconnectedness of these mathematical concepts.

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Homework Statement



If x, y are complex, prove that

| |x| - |y| | ≤ |x - y|

Homework Equations



If x = a + ib, |x| = √(a2+b2)

|x + y| ≤ |x| + |y| (works for both complex and real numbers)

The Attempt at a Solution



Maybe start with the left side

| |x| - |y| | = | |x| + (-|y|) | ≤ |x| + |-|y|| = |x| + |y|

... Maybe almost there is I can show |x| + |y| ≤ |x - y| ...


How can I not get this problem?

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Use that

|x|=|(x-y)+y|
 
micromass said:
Use that

|x|=|(x-y)+y|

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Stay around here. I'm going to hit you up with another question later.
 
What you wrote down is incorrect. Specifically, the first inequality is wrong.

You need to prove two things:

|x|-|y|\leq |x-y|~\text{and}~|x|-|y|\geq -|x-y|

These two together would imply your inequality.
 
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This is better :smile:
 
micromass said:
This is better :smile:

Think you could help me with the Schwartz equality problem? My homework is due in 1 hour and that's the only one I have left.
 
Jamin2112 said:
Think you could help me with the Schwartz equality problem? My homework is due in 1 hour and that's the only one I have left.

Well, what is the problem and what did you try?
 
micromass said:
Well, what is the problem and what did you try?

Figuring out under what condition equality holds in the Schwartz inequality. (I know the answer is when a and b are linearly independent)

I let aj = xj + iyj, bj = uj + ivj

and after some simplification came up with

∑(xj2+bj2)(uj2+vj2) = ∑(xj2+bj2)∑(uj2+vj2)

which somehow shows that a is a scalar multiple of b. Not sure how, though.
 

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