Proving 0x = 0: A Rigorous Proof and Its Correctness

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The discussion centers on the rigorous proof of the theorem 0x = 0 for all x, utilizing various axioms of arithmetic. The proof is constructed through a series of substitutions and applications of axioms, including the properties of addition and multiplication. Participants highlight the presence of redundant steps and emphasize the importance of explicitly stating axioms in rigorous proofs. A more concise proof is also suggested, demonstrating that 0x = 0 can be derived directly from basic properties of multiplication and addition.

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I was asked to write a rigorous proof for the following theorem:

0x = 0 ,for all x.

Is the following rigorous proof correct??

1) 0x = 0x+0...........by using the axiom:for all ,a : a+0=a

2) x+(-x) = 0..........by using the axiom: for all ,a: a+(-a) = 0

3) 0x = 0x +(x+(-x)).........by substituting (2) into (1)

4) 0x+(x+(-x)) = (0x+x)+(-x)......by using the axiom:for all a,b,c:a+(b+c)=(a+b)+c

5) 0x = (0x+x)+(-x).........by substituting (4) into (3)

6) 0x+x = x+0x.........by using the axiom:for all a,b:a+b=b+a

7) 0x = (x+0x)+(-x).........by substituting (6) into (5)

8) 1x = x............by using the axiom:for all,a:1a = a

9) 0x = (1x+0x)+(-x).........by substituting (8) into (7)

10) 1x+0x = (1+0)x.........by using the axiom: for all a,b,c:(a+b)c= ac+bc

11) 0x = (1+0)x+(-x).........by substituting (10) into (9)

12) 1+0 = 1...........by using the axiom:for all,a:a+0=a

13) 0x = 1x+(-x).........by substituting (12) into (11)

14) 1x = x..........by using the axiom:for all,a:1a = a

15) 0x = x+(-x).........by substituting (14) into (13)

16) x+(-x) = 0.........by using the axiom:for all,a:a+(-a) = 0

17) 0x = 0..........by substituting (16) into (15)

Thanx ,any help will be wellcomed
 
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I see redundant steps. How about:

Let n be an integer.
0x = n
0x - x = n - x
(0 - 1)x = n - x
-x = n - x
x - x = n
What can you say about n?
 
EnumaElish said:
I see redundant steps. How about:

Let n be an integer.
0x = n
0x - x = n - x
(0 - 1)x = n - x
-x = n - x
x - x = n
What can you say about n?
Thanks ,a good way to find how much is 0x.

B,t.w, x is a real No
There is an even shorter proof :

0x =0 <===> 0x +x =0+x <===> x(0+1) = x <===> x=x.

But in a rigorous proof we must show the axioms involved .

Where are the redundant steps??

Thanks again
 
You are correct, I should have written "n is real."

As for redundancy, I think you can start with 6; because 0x + x = x + 0x as a postulate. I am not saying you are wrong, but I do not see why you cannot start with 6.
 
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"But in a rigorous proof we must show the axioms involved."

No, in a rigorous proof you must make sure details are explicit. Stating the axioms is not a requirement.

Is there a reason for this discussion?
 
statdad said:
No, in a rigorous proof you must make sure details are explicit. Stating the axioms is not a requirement.

yes i agree after that statement there is no reason for further discussion
 
evagelos, I think statdad is referencing to widely accepted standards of proof in general math, statistics, and related fields.

If your instructor/professor has explicitly asked you to state each axiom, then those specific instructions take precedence over general ones.
 
EnumaElish is correct; my response was a little terse, my apologies, but I simply did not want to get involved in another long "gotcha" post involving what is and what is not a "rigorous proof".

Never email in haste - never post on a forum in haste: words I need to live by.
 

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