Axiomatic Proving: A) a0=0, B) 0<1

  • MHB
  • Thread starter solakis1
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Approach
In summary, "a0=0" in axiomatic proving represents the axiom of zero, which states that any number multiplied by zero is equal to zero. This axiom is often used as a starting point in mathematical proofs involving multiplication and allows for simplification and logical deductions. The axiom "0<1" represents the concept of the number line and is used as a basis for comparing and ordering numbers in proofs. It is considered a self-evident truth and cannot be proven in axiomatic proving. The axiom "a0=0" is often used in conjunction with the axiom "0<1" in proofs, providing a foundation for understanding and manipulating numbers in equations.
  • #1
solakis1
422
0
Given the following axioms:

For all a,b,c we have:

1) a+b = b+c
2) a+(b+c)=(a+b)+c
3) ab = ba
4) a(bc) = (ab)c
5) a(b+c) =ab+ac
NOTE,here the multiplication sign (.) between the variables have been ommited
6) There ia a number called 0 such that for all a,
a+0 =a
7)For each a, there is a number -a such that for any a,
a+(-a) = 0
8)There is a number called 1(diofferent from 0) such that for any a,
a1 = a
9)For each a which is different than 0there exists a number called 1/a such that;
a.(1/a)= 1.

For any numbers a,b

10) either a<b or a>b or a=b
11) if a<b and b<c then a<c
12) if a<b then a+c<b+c for any c
13) if a<b and c>0 then ac<bc for any c.

Then by using only the axioms stated above prove:

A) a0 = 0 ,B) 0<1

In trying to prove A i followed the proof shown below:

1) 0+0=0 ......by using axiom 6

2) (0+0)x =0x....by multiplying both sides by x

3)0x+ox =0x.....by using axiom 5

4) (0x+0x) +(-0x) =0x+(-0x) .....by adding (-0x) to both sides

5) 0x +[0x+(-0x)]= 0x+(-0x)......by using axiom 2

6) 0x +0 = 0 .....by using axiom 7

7) 0x = 0 ......by using axiom 6

For B ,I could not show a proof based only on the axioms stated above

Is my proof for A, correct 100%?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
solakis said:
3)0x+ox =0x.....by using axiom 5
You need to use commutativity first. Also note that adding the same term to both sides or multiplying both sides by the same number is, in fact, an application of an equality axiom. It is sometimes considered a part of first-order logic and is thus not listed. Finally, note that -0x in the proof is -(0x), not (-0)x.

Yes, with the correction about commutativity before distributivity, the proof of A) is correct. I'll think about a proof of B).
 
  • #3
Evgeny.Makarov said:
You need to use commutativity first. Also note that adding the same term to both sides or multiplying both sides by the same number is, in fact, an application of an equality axiom. It is sometimes considered a part of first-order logic and is thus not listed. Finally, note that -0x in the proof is -(0x), not (-0)x.

Yes, with the correction about commutativity before distributivity, the proof of A) is correct. I'll think about a proof of B).
Itried the following proof for B:

1) 1<0 or 1>0......by axioms 8 ND 10

2) For 1>0 there is nothing to prove

3) For 1<0 we have :

4) 1+(-1)< 0+(-1).....by axiom 12

5) 1+(-1)< (-1) +0.....by axiom 1

6) 0< -1.......by axioms 6 and 7

7) Now here we need a definition which is missing .
The definition is : for a,b a<b <=> b>a

8) So according to the above definition we have:

-1>0

9) -1>0

10) 1(-1)< 0(-1) ......by axiom 13

11) 1(-1)< 0........by part A (0A=0)

12) 1(-1)+1<0+1......BY axiom 12

13) 1.1+ 1(-1)<1+0......by axioms 1,3 and 8

14) 1(1+(-1))< 1.....by axioms 5 and 6

15) 1.0 <1.......by axiom 7

16) 0<1........by part A
 
  • #4
I believe your proof of B is correct. Well done.
 
  • #5
Evgeny.Makarov said:
I believe your proof of B is correct. Well done.

That means that the department of Mathematics o f the University of the Witwatersrand In Johannesburg in the year 1965 gave a wrong question in the final exams of Mathematics I.

They repeated the same mistake the year 1966 ,although they slightly changed the order axioms as shown below:

1) exactly one of a>b,a<b or a=b holds
2) if a>b ,b>c then a>c
3) if c>0 ,a>b then ac>bc
4) if a>b then a+c>b+c for any c

Here they also asked for a proof of :

A) ao =0 and B) 1>0

again based only on the axioms stated above

I think the set of order axioms that will produce a proof of 1>0 without the definition, a>b <=> b<a is the fololowing:

1) exactly one of a>b,b>a or a=b holds

2) if a>b ,b>c then a>c

3) if c>0 ,a>b then ac>bc

4) if a>b then a+c>b+c for any c
 
  • #6
Yes, you need a connection between $a<b$ and $b>a$. Maybe the authors of the problem believed that the equivalence is assumed. Similarly to how in the context of a field one often writes $x/y$ meaning $x\cdot y^{-1}$, maybe they assumed that $b>a$ is defined to mean $a<b$. This approach is used, for example, in the Coq theorem prover in regard to real numbers.
 

Related to Axiomatic Proving: A) a0=0, B) 0<1

Question 1: What is the meaning of "a0=0" in axiomatic proving?

In axiomatic proving, "a0=0" represents the axiom of zero, which states that any number multiplied by zero is equal to zero. This is a fundamental property in mathematics and is used as a starting point for proving other mathematical statements.

Question 2: How does the axiom "a0=0" impact mathematical proofs?

The axiom "a0=0" is often used as a starting point in mathematical proofs involving multiplication. It allows us to simplify equations and make logical deductions, ultimately leading to a proof of a mathematical statement.

Question 3: What is the significance of the axiom "0<1" in axiomatic proving?

The axiom "0<1" represents the concept of the number line, where all numbers are arranged in order from smallest to largest. It is used as a basis for comparing and ordering numbers in mathematical proofs.

Question 4: Can the axiom "0<1" be proven?

No, the axiom "0<1" cannot be proven in axiomatic proving. It is considered a self-evident truth and is accepted as a starting point for mathematical proofs.

Question 5: How does the axiom "a0=0" relate to the axiom "0<1"?

The axiom "a0=0" is often used in conjunction with the axiom "0<1" in mathematical proofs. Together, they provide a foundation for understanding and manipulating numbers in mathematical equations.

Similar threads

  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
26
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
641
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • Precalculus Mathematics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
584
  • General Math
Replies
16
Views
2K
Back
Top