Proving A=B When A U B is a Subset of A Intersect B: Set Theory Explained

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The problem involves proving that if the union of two sets A and B is a subset of their intersection, then A must equal B. This falls under the subject area of set theory.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various logical steps to demonstrate the relationship between the sets, including the implications of subset and intersection properties. Some explore the necessity of showing mutual inclusion between A and B.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on how to structure the proof. Some guidance has been provided regarding the logical flow of the argument, but no consensus on a specific method has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of subset definitions and the implications of set operations, indicating a need for clarity on these foundational concepts.

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The question is

If A U B is a subset of A intersect B, then prove that A=B


Now i can see this in my head and it makes sense that the elements in set A and Set B would have to be the same. The problem that i have with subset questions is how to prove that this is the case. I can start by saying

For all x ( x is an element of (A U B) --> x is an element of (A intersect B))
( x is an element of (A U B) --> x is an element of A AND B))
( x is an element of (A U B) --> x is an element of A AND x is an element of B))

Where do i go from here? Any help would be great
 
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I think that this approach will work, note that the intersection of any number of sets will always be a subset of anyone of those sets, and for the union of any number of sets, any set in that union will be a subset of the union. So then show that based on what you know A is a subset of B and B is a subset of A, and they are consequently equal.
 
( x is an element of (A U B) --> x is an element of A AND B))
This doesn't make sense--"x is an element of A AND B." What kind of set is "A AND B"? You should skip this step and go straight to saying x is an element of A and x is an element of B.

A simple way to approach the problem is to suppose that x is an element of A. Then you want to show that it is an element of B. The reverse direction is essentially the same. Here's how your proof could start:
"Let x be an element of A. Then x is an element of A or x is an element of B. So, x is an element of A u B."
 
To prove "A= B", you have to do two things: prove "if x is an element of A, then it is an element of B" and prove "if x is an element of B, then it is an element of A".

You might start by saying "Let x be an element of A. Then it is an element of A union B. Since A union B is a subset of A intersect B, then ..."
 

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