Proving a limit for a multi-variable equaton

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of a multi-variable function as it approaches the point (0,0). The specific function in question is (x^2*y^2) / (x^2 + 2y^2), and participants are exploring the definition of limits in the context of two variables.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a limit for two variables and consider using polar coordinates to analyze the limit's behavior as it approaches (0,0). There is an exploration of how the limit's dependence on the angle theta might affect its existence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using polar coordinates, while others have attempted to manipulate the expression to find a suitable delta for a given epsilon. The conversation reflects a mix of strategies and interpretations without reaching a consensus.

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There is a focus on the epsilon-delta definition of limits, and participants are navigating through various mathematical expressions and inequalities to establish the limit's behavior. The original poster expresses a desire to find a delta that satisfies the limit definition.

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Homework Statement



Using the definition of a limit, prove that

lim(x, y) --> (0,0) (x^2*y^2) / (x^2 + 2y^2) = 0

Homework Equations



Now, I know that the limit of f(x, y) as (x, y) approaches (a, b) is L such that lim (x, y) --> (a, b) f(x, y) = L. Also, for every number epsilon > 0, there is a delta > 0 such that |f(x, y) - L| < epsilon.

I believe the above is the definition of a limit of two variables.

The Attempt at a Solution



In a sense, f(x, y) --> L (two VALUES) as (x, y) --> (a, b) (two POINTS). By making the distance between points (x, y) and (a, b) extremely small (some value epsilon), we make the distance between f(x, y) and L (some value delta) subsequently small. For any interval [L - epsilon, L + epsilon], there is a subsequent plane with center (a, b) and radius delta > 0 satisfying this.

What I want to do is use some very small value of epsilon to find a value of delta that satisfies the definition of a limit.
 
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Generally, for problems like this, the best thing to do is to change to polar coordinates: [itex]x= rcos(\theta)[/itex], [itex]y= rsin(\theta)[/itex] because then r alone measures how close to (0,0) we are. If the limit as r goes to 0 is independent of [itex]\theta[/itex], then the limit exists and is that value. If the limit as r goes to 0 depends on [itex]\theta[/itex] then the limit of the function does not exist.
 
[tex]|\frac{x^2y^2}{x^2+2y^2}-0|=|\frac{x^2y^2}{x^2+2y^2}|=|\frac{x^2}{x^2+2y^2}y^2|=|\frac{x^2}{x^2+2y^2}|y^2<y^2<x^2+y^2<\delta^2=\epsilon[/tex]

So for a choice of :

[tex]\delta=\sqrt{\epsilon}[/tex] it would work out.


[tex]x^2<x^2+2y^2=>\frac{1}{x^2+2y^2}<\frac{1}{x^2}=>\frac{x^2}{x^2+2y^2}<1[/tex]


[tex]x^2+y^2<\delta^2[/tex]

edit: Halls suggestion is correct and helpful no doubt. but you have more options now!
 
Thank you, you guys were very helpful!
 

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