Proving Angular Momentum Magnitudes: Binomial Expansion Method

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The discussion focuses on proving the magnitudes of angular momentum using the binomial expansion method. The correct approximation for large values of l is established as L ≈ (l + 0.5) * hbar, contrasting with the incorrect initial attempt of L ≈ hbar * √l * (1 + l/2). The key to the proof lies in recognizing that the binomial expansion (1 + x)^(1/2) is a valid approximation only when x is small, which is satisfied by 1/l for large l. The participants clarify the importance of correctly applying the binomial expansion to achieve the desired result.

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Homework Statement


The allowed magnitudes of angular momentum are L = √(l(l+1)) * hbar. Use the binomial expansion to prove that when l is large, L ≈ (l + .5) * hbar.

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Binomial expansion formula: (1 + z)^n = 1 + nz + [n*(n-1)*z^2] / 2 + ...

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Ok. First I did:
L = √(l(l+1)) * hbar = [hbar * √l] * [1 + l]^.5
Then doing Bin. expan. apprx. for [1 + l]^.5,
I get a final answe, L ≈ hbar * √l * (1 + l/2)

Which is wrong. When compared to L ≈ (l + .5) * hbar, I can tell that I have an extra factor of √l, I think it has something to do with l being very large. Can someone please help me out? Thanks
 
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Factor the l out of (l(l+1))^(1/2)=(l^2+l)^(1/2)=(l^2*(1+1/l))^(1/2).
 
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Thank you so much. I understand it. So:

[l * (l + 1)] ^ (1/2) = (l + l^2) ^ (1/2) = [l^2 * (l + 1/l)] ^ (1/2) = l * (1+ 1/l)^(1/2) ≈ l * (1 + 1/2l).

Great, that achieves the correct answer. Thanks again
 
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perplexabot said:
Thank you so much. I understand it. So:

[l * (l + 1)] ^ (1/2) = (l + l^2) ^ (1/2) = [l^2 * (l - 1/l)] ^ (1/2) = l * (1- 1/l)^(1/2) = l * (1 + 1/2l).

Great, that achieves the correct answer. Thanks again

In the last step it isn't equal, right? It's just an approximation. I'm also not sure where the minus signs came from and then disappeared to. Just a typo, right?
 
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Dick said:
In the last step it isn't equal, right? It's just an approximation. I'm also not sure where the minus signs came from and then disappeared to. Just a typo, right?

Yes, you are right, this is an approximation and that minus sign is a typo (I will edit my post). Thanks again.
One last optional question though, would you by any chance know why my first trial was wrong (my first post)?
 
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Yes, you are right, this is an approximation and that minus sign is a typo (I will edit my post). Thanks again.
One last optional question though, would you by any chance know why my first trial was wrong (my first post)?

Sure. (1+x)^(1/2)~(1+x/2) is only a good approximation if x is small. So (1+1/l)^(1/2)~(1+1/(2l)) is a good approximation because 1/l is small. (1+l)^(1/2)~1+l/2 is a bad approximation because l is large.
 
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Dick said:
Sure. (1+x)^(1/2)~(1+x/2) is only a good approximation if x is small. So (1+1/l)^(1/2)~(1+1/(2l)) is a good approximation because 1/l is small. (1+l)^(1/2)~1+l/2 is a bad approximation because l is large.

Thank you for your time.
 

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