Proving At Least One Real Number Is Greater Than Average

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The discussion revolves around proving that at least one of a set of real numbers is greater than or equal to their average, specifically in the context of the first 10 positive integers arranged in a circle. The original poster expresses confidence in solving the first part of the problem but seeks assistance with the second part regarding the sums of consecutive integers around the circle.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants suggest using a proof by contradiction. Others propose calculating partial sums of consecutive integers around the circle to reframe the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. While some guidance has been offered regarding the use of partial sums, there is no explicit consensus on a definitive method or solution yet.

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The original poster indicates a lack of direction for the second part of the problem, highlighting the challenge of proving the existence of a sum of three consecutive integers that meets a specific threshold.

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a said:
Show that at least one of the real numbers a1, a2, a3, ..., an is greater or equal to the average of these numbers.
b said:
Use the result in (a) to show that if the first 10 positive integers are placed around a circle, in any order, there exist three integers in consecutive locations around the circle that have a sum greater than or equal to 17
i can solve question (a) but not (b)
i totally don't know where to start, can anyone give me a some hints?
 
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Maybe by contradiction?
 
Let's name the integers around the circle as
a_1, a_2, ..., a_10 (they are the integers 1 through 10 in some order).

Now let's go around the circle calculating partial sums
s_1 = a_1 + a_2 + a_3
s_2 = a_2 + a_3 + a_4
...
s_8 = a_8 + a_9 + a_10
s_9 = a_9 + a_10 + a_1
s_10= a_10 + a_1 + a_2
All possible triplets of integers in consecutive locations around the circle are represented here, as well as their sums.
We can rephrase the question now:
prove that there is at least one of those sums greater than or equal to 17.

Does that help?
 
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help!

i was hoping somebody could show me how to solve this problem...what proof would you use?
 
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