Proving C(X) is a Banach Space for Compact Hausdorff X

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the space C(X) of continuous functions on a compact Hausdorff space X, specifically whether C(X) is a Banach space without the requirement of a metric. Participants explore the implications of the Hausdorff property in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a proof for C(M) being a Banach space for compact metric spaces and questions how to adapt the proof for compact Hausdorff spaces without using a metric.
  • Another participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the claim that C(X) is a Banach space and expresses interest in the topic regardless.
  • One participant suggests using open sets instead of balls in the proof, implying that the argument could still hold.
  • A different participant points out that open sets lack a natural radius, complicating the adaptation of the proof.
  • There is a side discussion about the role of the Hausdorff property, with one participant asking how it is utilized and another responding that it may not be used at all.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the necessity of the metric in proving that C(X) is a Banach space and whether the Hausdorff property plays a role. There is no consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of using open sets versus balls, and the discussion remains open regarding the application of the Hausdorff property in this context.

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I already know how to prove that if M is a compact metric space, then

<br /> C(M) = \{f\in \mathbb{C}^M\;|\; f\;\textrm{continuous}\}<br />

with the sup-norm, is a Banach space, but now I encountered a claim, that actually metric is not necessary, and C(X) is Banach space also when X is a compact Hausdorff space.

My proof concerning C(M) follows the following steps:
(1) Show that C(M) is a norm space.
Let f_1,f_2,f_3,\cdots\in C(M) be some Cauchy-sequence.
(2) Show that a pointwise limit f=\lim_{n\to\infty}f_n exists in \mathbb{C}^M.
(3) Show that f is continuous.
(4) Show that \|f-f_n\|\to 0 when n\to\infty.

All other steps work without metric, except the third one. This is how I did it:

Let x\in M and \epsilon &gt;0 be arbitrary. One has to find \delta &gt;0 so that f(B(x,\delta))\subset B(f(x),\epsilon). First fix N\in\mathbb{N} so that \|f_i-f_j\| &lt; \epsilon / 3 for all i,j\geq N. Then fix \delta &gt; 0 so that f_N(B(x,\delta))\subset B(f_N(x),\epsilon /3). Then for all y\in B(x,\delta)

<br /> |f(x) - f(y)| \leq |f(x) - f_N(x)| \;+\; |f_N(x) - f_N(y)| \;+\; |f_N(y) - f(y)| &lt; \epsilon<br />

But how do you the same without the metric, with the Hausdorff property only?
 
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Whoops, I just realized that I have not encountered the claim, that C(X) would be a Banach space. I made a mistake when reading one thing...

Well, I'll be listening if somebody has something to say about the issue anyway :smile:
 
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Just use open sets instead of balls; it all works out the same.
 
But because open sets don't have any natural radius, the radius cannot be divided by three either.

edit: Oooh... but the balls are in \mathbb{C}!
 
ding ding ding :wink:

Oh, as an aside, do you know how the Hausdorff property is being used?
 
morphism said:
ding ding ding :wink:

Oh, as an aside, do you know how the Hausdorff property is being used?

No. Is it used at all?
 
Nope!
 

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