Proving COM Moves 0.5(x_1 + x_2) in Δt

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The problem involves two blocks connected by a spring on a frictionless table, where a force is applied to one block, causing both to move. The objective is to prove that the center of mass (COM) moves a distance of 0.5(x_1 + x_2) during a specified time interval.

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  • Participants discuss how to calculate the initial and final positions of the center of mass, questioning whether to use the initial position of mass 1 as a reference. There are inquiries about the implications of the applied force on the movement of the blocks and the resulting calculations for the COM.

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Some participants have begun to clarify their understanding of the COM calculations and the relationship between the initial and final positions. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and references used in these calculations, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the implications of using different reference points for calculating the COM and are considering the effects of the applied force on the system's dynamics.

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Homework Statement
As shown in Figure 9.22a, two blocks are at rest on a frictionless, level table. Both
blocks have the same mass m, and they are connected by a spring of negligible mass.
The separation distance of the blocks when the spring is relaxed is L. During a time
interval delta t, a constant force of magnitude F is applied horizontally to the left block,
moving it through a distance x_1 as shown in Figure 9.22b. During this time interval, the right block moves through a distance x_2. At the end of this time interval, the force F is removed.

Find the resulting speed of the center of mass of the system
Relevant Equations
Impulse–momentum theorem
For this problem,

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How can we prove that the COM moves a distance 0.5(x_1 + x_2) during the time interval delta t?

Many thanks!
 
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Callumnc1 said:
Homework Statement:: As shown in Figure 9.22a, two blocks are at rest on a frictionless, level table. Both
blocks have the same mass m, and they are connected by a spring of negligible mass.
The separation distance of the blocks when the spring is relaxed is L. During a time
interval delta t, a constant force of magnitude F is applied horizontally to the left block,
moving it through a distance x_1 as shown in Figure 9.22b. During this time interval, the right block moves through a distance x_2. At the end of this time interval, the force F is removed.

Find the resulting speed of the center of mass of the system
Relevant Equations:: Impulse–momentum theorem

For this problem,

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How can we prove that the COM moves a distance 0.5(x_1 + x_2) during the time interval delta t?

Many thanks!
How do you calculate the centre of mass of this system?
 
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haruspex said:
How do you calculate the centre of mass of this system?
You use the COM formula @haruspex . Do you what me to calculate the initial COM or finial COM?

I found the initial COM to be,
1670035936964.png

However, the finial COM is tricky. How would you find it?

I'm think I'm meant to calculate it with respect to mass 1 again, correct? NOT with respect to where mass 1 was initially, correct?

Many thanks!
 
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Callumnc1 said:
the finial COM is tricky. How would you find it?
"left block, moving it through a distance x_1… , the right block moves through a distance x_2"
 
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haruspex said:
"left block, moving it through a distance x_1… , the right block moves through a distance x_2"
Thanks, but with respect to what? The origin, or using mass 1 as the origin?

Many thanks!
 
haruspex said:
"left block, moving it through a distance x_1… , the right block moves through a distance x_2"
@haruspex, I decided to find the finial COM of the system with respect to the same place which I used to find the COM before the force was exert onto the system.
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I now understand where they got their formula from. It is the finial COM - initial COM.Many thanks!
 
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