Proving Ideal Property of f(x)=0 for Every Rational x in $\mathcal{F}(\mathcal{R})$

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The discussion focuses on proving that specific sets are ideals of the ring of real-valued functions, denoted as $\mathcal{F}(\mathcal{R})$. The two sets in question are: (a) functions that equal zero for every rational number, and (b) functions that equal zero at zero. The participants clarify that the multiplication operation in this context is pointwise multiplication, not function composition, which is crucial for the validity of the ideal properties. The conclusion emphasizes that using pointwise multiplication confirms the ideal status of the specified sets.

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I am asked:

Prove that each of the following is an ideal of $\mathcal{F}(\mathcal{R})$:
a. The set of all f such that f(x)=0 for every rational x
b. The set of all f such that f(0)=0

My question is how do I know what the multiplicative operation is within the ring? Is multiplication the standard multiplication on real numbers or is it composition of functions?

I would expect it to be composition of functions but then if I choose g(x)=1 then I get g(f(x))=g(0) for any real x and this is not generally zero. So it must be the multiplication on reals.

Am I just supposed to know that?
 
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Hi Kiwi,

I don't know where this exercises come from, but it must be specified what the product is.

It is usual to consider $\mathcal{F}(\mathbb{R})$ the ring of real valued functions with pointwise product, and with this product your statements are true (they aren't with composition).

Try to prove it with pointwise multiplication and let us know if you encounter any other problem. ;)
 

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